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To: vette6387
I guess you don’t know the First Amendment very well!

Yes I do. I know it well enough to know that it is not an absolute right. For instance you don't yell fire in a crowded movie house.. You also do not say things that are going to disrupt the learning of others or cause others to riot.

You might want to study up on the limits of free speech and expression.

67 posted on 04/24/2013 7:24:59 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga

There was no disruption or inciting of “riot” until the teacher caused a problem in the lunch room.

If the shirt was generally disruptive and inciting of riotous behavior, it would have occurred prior to lunch time.


72 posted on 04/24/2013 7:56:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: verga
For instance you don't yell fire in a crowded movie house.. You also do not say things that are going to disrupt the learning of others or cause others to riot.

Good point.

The teacher, principal and police did all of these things, all the kid did was wear a shirt promoting the second amendment.

Typical concern troll anti-Constitution, making it seem the kid was "saying" things when he wasn't.

78 posted on 04/24/2013 8:14:50 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?")
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To: verga

“You also do not say things that are going to disrupt the learning of others or cause others to riot.”

I think there is a “reasonable person” phrase in there. The student met reasonable people all morning. Only this one teacher was unreasonable.

Further, applying that same standard, the teacher’s response created the disruption of many students. Thus the teacher is guilty of breaking the same rule the student is accused of breaking.

A teacher once gave my straight A, president of the honor society son detention for not writing down his homework assignments in his study booklet. The only reason she noticed that the entire book was blank was that he had the best score in the class exams. She went to write a congratulatory note to me and found the entire book blank. Kid had a photographic memory and was almost anal in his following the rules and being responsible.

This booklet was also for communication between teachers and parents. I met with the teacher and her principal and asked, “What is the teacher’s punishment for not reviewing these booklets for parent communication since over half of the school year is over. My next statement was that I would ask that question to the superintendent and then to the school board if I did not get a satisfactory answer. In addition, I wanted copies of all my communications to be included in her personnel file. Problem resolved.

What the teacher did not realize was that as a CPA I was contracted to audit the school district’s financial records and had full access to her personnel file. And, I was friends with the superintendent and most of the board. Amazing how people don’t consider the consequences of their actions when they are unreasonable. We must treat all people, no matter the age or position with respect.

The strangers we meet on the road, just might be angels in disguise.

Hebrews 13:2
Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it.


82 posted on 04/24/2013 8:31:24 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: verga

You just might want to read post #71.


93 posted on 04/24/2013 11:43:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: verga

“You might want to study up on the limits of free speech and expression.”

That is not applicable in this situation. The young man was not doing anything wrong. From what I read, it was the teacher who provoked the situation. No “fire in a crowded room” here. I only hope that at the end of the day, the school district has to cough up a bunch of bucks to the kid and his family. Making them pay for their mistakes is the only way that this stuff is going to be brought to a halt.


97 posted on 04/24/2013 7:30:17 PM PDT by vette6387
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