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To: saleman
There have been several dozen threads about this one video. NO ONE has come up with a single statement from any of the participants about what was going on. We have ONLY the claims of the people who post the video ~~~

Given the circumstances we really do need THE VOICE PART.

Absent that we have a propaganda piece. It has its fans who want to believe what they want to believe. And, worse, we have the doper crowd who are more concerned for the possibility the cops might see their stash than worry about the mad dog killer who'se been blowing up bombs and murdering people ~ dude even murdered his own brother by driving over him with a SUV.

The poster in question popped up and said I was a liar. That poster has not provided any further evidence that her beliefs are true ~ which means she must have an ulterior motive for doing that. I've simply proposed that she's the ringleader of the crowd who want to turn the perp loose because of someone's uninformed allegation that the 4th amendment was even involved in this particular situation. The poster can deal with it, or with draw the accusation.

193 posted on 04/24/2013 11:51:29 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
She posted “you are a liar” after you posted that Freepers wanted the terrorist released.

I have seen no evidence of that. As for the searches. If a homeowner objected to the search, and they were searched anyway, that, in my opinion, is a violation of the 4th Amendment. If they consented under the point of a gun, then that sounds like coercion to me. Others may disagree. And they have.

As far as the video. It's not as if people are just “making things up”. Unless the video was a bunch of actors, then people are being removed from their homes. With hands in the air. That can't be disputed. I think you would agree that the video posted is not of all the searches, just one of many.

Again, if any one of the homeowners objected to the search and were searched anyway, without a warrant, then it was a violation. Any other reading of the 4th amendment is akin to the gungrabber reading of the 2nd.

194 posted on 04/24/2013 12:08:00 PM PDT by saleman
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