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To: latina4dubya

Exactly! The Latino/Hispanic voter must need to hear the message even in their own language. All they have been hearing is from the liberals side in their own language how evil the Republicans are, and they hate Mexicans and so on and so on. We must reach out and EXPLAIN to them why we support certain and why we oppose, so they can have a better understanding. The Democraps had the advantage of sending their message it is about time we do the same. Remember fight fire with fire. They need to understand why it is important to speak English, or why it is important to cut taxes, and why the 2nd amendment must be uphold. Those messages must come thru to them in their own language if need be. Remember Mexicans tends to be more socially conservative. Which will be a uphill fight with this gay marriage and abortion so that is one part that is positive. Now they needs to hear the rest and that is not by pandering like street walkers but to rely the real conservative message to them.


9 posted on 04/16/2013 11:09:58 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: Patriot Babe; latina4dubya
Remember Mexicans tends to be more socially conservative. Which will be a uphill fight with this gay marriage and abortion so that is one part that is positive.

I'm hoping to hear back from latina4dubya to provide some arguments that might make me reconsider my stance on this style of Latino outreach. I'll confess that my position is more like that of Steve King, Tom Tancredo or even President Eisenhower with his successful Operation Wetback program in the 1950's.

As for the social conservatism of Mexicans, what are your thoughts on this recent thread? Natural Conservatives? Really?

10 posted on 04/16/2013 11:21:33 PM PDT by re_nortex
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To: Patriot Babe
They need to understand why it is important to speak English, or why it is important to cut taxes, and why the 2nd amendment must be uphold.

All they care about is taking advantage of whatever entitlement benefits they can mooch off of. They have no desire for assimilation. As far as speaking English, good luck. Where I live in suburban Chicago, we have so many Spanish signs it looks more like Mexico. And I can tell you from a few people I know that work in the city government that it has now gotten to the point where they realize that non-hispanic-owned businesses are not willing to come here. Believe me when I say it has become a big problem that many have whispered about, but will never be admitted publicly. How they plan to solve it, I have no clue, but good luck to them!

One more thing, talk to any school district that is spending a ton of money on ESL programs. Ask them if they like it when most, if not all, districts are struggling with funding. Remember Mexicans tends to be more socially conservative.

Absolute BS.

Come here in suburban Chicago and take a look at my local high school which is more than 75% hispanic and you will notice that well over half of the girls there are pregnant. It has gotten so bad that there is now a day care center in the school.

More hispanics than ever support gay marriage as well.

Part of me is furious at what is going on. But another part of me is laughing. The GOP would never have had this problem with hispanics if the leadership displayed a hint of common sense and secured the border. Reagan granted amnesty and there was no groundswell of hispanic support. Bush 41 and 43 did nothing to stop illegal immigration. After 9-11 I thought at the very least our borders would have been sealed, but no. Since the GOP is so closely tied with the business community (and their desire for cheap labor), they are all too willing to look the other way and ignore the problems as long as politicians receive their campaign contributions (or as I like to call them, "bribes") from their business friends.

Then what happens when amnesty is passed and the democrats get 20 million new voters, no increase in hispanic support for the GOP as they lose their base out of disgust? What will the GOP say? I doubt they will admit they made a mistake. They could care less. They will have their money and will live comfortably in their gated communities as they one-by-one lose office.

15 posted on 04/17/2013 12:28:33 AM PDT by eekitsagreek
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To: Patriot Babe
"hear in their own language?"

Pardon me but isn't their own language the same as ours?

Are we so eager to split America into groups like the Democrats do, and what exactly are we going to tell "them in their own language?"

Are we planning on telling "them in their own language" how much free stuff we want to offer them?

Hispanics here legally as citizens already have to know English, or at least they used to, so if we have to resort to buses catering to "them in their own language (and how insulting is that anyway), we aren't attempting to reach out to citizens but illegal aliens hoping to become citizens through Amnesty!

Karl Rove must surely be running the TEA Party Express these days!

19 posted on 04/17/2013 4:28:36 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Patriot Babe; re_nortex
yes... as you can see, it is not a popular idea with conservatives... people automatically think it's going to be "pandering." and i don't think it has to be that... it cannot be that... already you see the sarcastic comments such as this will make the Mexicans vote R in droves... i do not imagine that will happen with one TP Xpress tour.... the outreach has to be ongoing... (it should have been happening for decades already)...

it is about informing... and the message has to be delivered again and again... will we win over every Mexican vote? no.... will we win over most of the Mexican vote? perhaps not... but we don't need every Mexican... we can aim get a good chunk of the voting block... just a chunk... that would be valuable... and it could be for generations... and it will not happen over night... and it may not happen by the next election... but we ought to take the first steps ASAP... i see it as being a long, arduous journey...

i also think we ought to reach out with black Americans...

23 posted on 04/17/2013 7:06:33 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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