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Gun-Rights Group Endorses Manchin-Toomey Compromise
NBCNews.com ^ | 14 April 2013 | Kasie Hunt

Posted on 04/14/2013 3:06:21 PM PDT by zeestephen

The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms had opposed previous iterations of a Democratic proposal for univesal background checks. "It's huge," Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., told Fox News on Sunday afternoon as he announced the CCRKBA endorsement.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gunbill; guncontrol; gunlaws; manchin; secondamendment; toomey
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To: Aria
Re: “The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms - Probably concocted by Axelrod.”

No.

These guys “were” rock solid Constitutional Conservatives.

Check out their website:

http://www.saf.org/

21 posted on 04/14/2013 3:23:18 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
The Common Sense Gun Lobby Citizens Committee For The Right...

www.ccrkba.org

Offers books, discusses legal issues, current and proposed legislation on the right to keep and bear arms.

Not looking good, IMHO. "Common sense" is Libspeak for Camel's Nose.

22 posted on 04/14/2013 3:23:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: zeestephen

CCRKBA

23 posted on 04/14/2013 3:24:11 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: zeestephen

Hmmmm - wonder what happened???


24 posted on 04/14/2013 3:25:34 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

CCRKBA has been a good organization in the past. I’m not certain what’s going on, but it doesn’t bode well for liberty.


25 posted on 04/14/2013 3:26:24 PM PDT by RugerMini14
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Honestly is everyone around here so stinkin lazy they don’t use search anymore?

Gotleib is a good guy. Tom Gresham has him on all the time -even today.

I am not saying this is a good bill but if what Alan said is true it is better than the alternatives.

Books by Alan M. Gottlieb
Gun Rights Affirmed: The Emerson Case
Gun Rights Fact Book
Politically Correct Guns: Please Don’t Rob or Kill Me
Celebrity Address Book
THE GUN GRABBERS: Who are they, how the operate, where they get their money
Things You Can Do to Defend Your Gun Rights
She Took A Village
Rights of Gun Owners: A Second Amendment
The Wise Use Agenda
Gun owner’s political action manual
Black & Blue: How Obama and the Democrats are Beating Up the Constitution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Gottlieb


26 posted on 04/14/2013 3:26:53 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: RugerMini14
CCRKBA has been a good organization in the past.

Bait for the trap.

27 posted on 04/14/2013 3:27:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I saw a a gun grabbing group on the local news today. The Moms for “common sense” gun legislation.


28 posted on 04/14/2013 3:27:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: zeestephen
This bill is worse than a ban on some specific models or types of guns. It trashes the 4th Amend., the 5th Amend. and the 10th Amend. as well as the 2nd Amend.

The Toomey-Manchin Kill The Bill of Rights Bill.

TITLE ONE: GETTING ALL THE NAMES OF PROHIBITED PURCHASERS INTO THE BACKGROUND CHECK SYSTEM

Summary of Title I: This section improves background checks for firearms by strengthening the instant check system.

- Encourage states to provide all their available records to NICS by restricting federal funds to states who do not comply.

By "all their available records" just what records are they blackmailing states for with that statist bilge water? "All" is a pretty big word when only a very few records are applicable to denying someone their right to keep and bear arms.

- Allow dealers to voluntarily use the NICS database to run background checks on their prospective employees.

Does that means dealers can run NICS checks on prospective employees without their knowledge or consent? I have no idea what the word 'voluntarily' means there. Does it mean dealers will be allowed to not run NICS checks if they prefer not to?

- Clarifies that submissions of mental health records into the NICS system are not prohibited by federal privacy laws (HIPAA).

Submissions of mental health records? Since when has it been legal to deny any American their rights without due process? Isn't it required that a person be adjudicated mentally deficient by a court of law to do that? Mental health records are entirely irrelevant except to those court proceedings. This bill sounds like Stalinist purge material.

- Provides a legal process for a veteran to contest his/her placement in NICS when there is no basis for barring the right to own a firearm.

Is that an admission that the Bill of Rights doesn't cover veterans or an admission that it doesn't cover anyone anymore?

Was all of this gun control demagoguery really just a Trojan Horse to sneak this Bill of Rights killer into law?

Look at the precedents Toomey-Manchin sets regarding the freedom to travel.

Posted: Full Text of 'The Public Safety And Second Amendment Rights Protection Act'
(Toomey-Manchin Treason Bill)

Feinstein: All Vets Are Mentally Ill And Government Should Prevent Them From Owning Firearms

29 posted on 04/14/2013 3:27:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: smoothsailing
http://www.ccrkba.org/wp-content/themes/ccrkba/ccweblogo2.png

"Common sense" is code for "our way or the highway."

30 posted on 04/14/2013 3:28:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: zeestephen

Oh.

Well that makes unconstitutional power grabs okay then. :)


31 posted on 04/14/2013 3:30:49 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Common sense" is code for "our way or the highway."

"Kiss my ass" is uncoded my way or the highway.
32 posted on 04/14/2013 3:30:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Here’s a list of affiliates...

http://www.ccrkba.org/?page_id=2431


33 posted on 04/14/2013 3:32:52 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: mad_as_he$$
I posted this, and I'm completely stunned by Gottlieb.

His past record is outstanding.

What happened?

34 posted on 04/14/2013 3:32:53 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: cripplecreek

Common sense is something that is severely lacking among the commie ‘RAT community. They’re not called low information voters for nothing.


35 posted on 04/14/2013 3:33:09 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: zeestephen

Never heard of the, “Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms”. Even if I had heard of them, their stance on this issue automatically destroys any credibility they may have enjoyed


36 posted on 04/14/2013 3:33:36 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: smoothsailing
If they are for a gun control bill, they are not on our side.

They are an elaborate false-flag operation.

Handgun Control, Inc. in drag.

37 posted on 04/14/2013 3:34:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep. The PO(tu)S uses the phrase all the time.


38 posted on 04/14/2013 3:34:53 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Anyone to the left of complete elimination of background checks is not on the side of the second amendment.


39 posted on 04/14/2013 3:36:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: zeestephen
I have been adamantly against any "universal background check" law, but after actually reading the Toomey amendment, I must say I'm warming up to it.

It provides that you can transfer to family members (including inlaws) without background checks. It allows for temporary transfers for hunting, target shooting, or inspection.

It finally allows for the interstate purchase of handguns from FFLs, and it closes the FOPA loophole by specifically allowing for overnight stays, stops for fuel or food, and emergency medical attention as part of interstate travel. It also changes the FOPA from being an affirmative defense to prohibiting arrest or detention by state authorities. (This is what New York and New Jersey were doing; arresting people who transported firearms, then forced them to appear in court to assert the FOPA as an affirmative defense.)

Summary of the Toomey amendment here.

Full text here.

40 posted on 04/14/2013 3:36:08 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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