Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

As Jerry Brown Touts California In China, Its Citizens Pack Their Bags
Forbes ^ | 04/12/2013 | David Davenport, Contributor

Posted on 04/13/2013 5:44:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

While Governor Jerry Brown is in China touting the state’s rebound and recovery, many Californians are busy packing their bags for a move to Texas, Nevada or Arizona. Why? Because it appears that the once-Golden State may finally be overpriced, underperforming and ungovernable.

Is it possible that one state has managed to top every 50-state category on the following shameful list?

Highest taxes (gasoline, sales and top bracket of income taxes)

Lowest bond rating

Highest poverty rate (at 23.5%, the home of 1/3 of those in poverty in U.S.)

Highest unemployment rate (tied with Mississippi and Nevada at 9.6%)

Highest energy costs

Worst state to do business (as judged by Chief Executive magazine 8 years running)

Most cities going bankrupt

Prison system so poorly run it has been taken over by a federal judge

And California has managed to do this during its rebound, its good years, according to Jerry Brown who, if not Governor Moonbeam in his second coming as the state’s leader, is clearly not in touch with life on Planet California.

Although there is argument about this, there shouldn’t be: people are leaving the state. The data shows that there has been a net out-migration from California to other states since 1990, balanced for awhile by immigration from other countries.

But by 2005 that had eroded, too, with birth rates in the state also dropping at an incredible rate. Over the past two decades, a net 3.4 million people have left the state. And this is before the 2013 increase in income tax rates which prompted even liberal TV talker Bill Maher to complain that “it’s outrageous what we (millionaires) are paying” in taxes, “over 50%,” warning “liberals, you could actually lose me.”

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; china; exodus; jerrybrown
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-52 next last
To: blueunicorn6
“Surf’s up!” And “Serfs out!” In California. Brought to you by the California Country Club Democrats.

Don't forget the exclusive CALGOP Country Club. All the perks and none of the responsibility.

21 posted on 04/13/2013 6:46:34 AM PDT by EricT.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: iacovatx

I hope the lefty Californians go to New York...ONLY to New York. Stray away from everywhere else.


22 posted on 04/13/2013 6:46:50 AM PDT by hal ogen (ll)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: eyeamok

Immigration, legal and illegal, has killed CA. It is the canary in the coal mine. By 2050 the demographics of the US will be like CA today. CA is our future.


23 posted on 04/13/2013 6:56:19 AM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: bert

-— The state of New York is heavily advertising about the wonderful advantages of moving businesses there. ——

How can anyone smart enough to launch and build a profitable company buy this BS, unless he’s getting some kind of tax break?

Can anyone explain that?


24 posted on 04/13/2013 6:58:26 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

How about a new state law, in Texas and other places, that new residents from other states are not allowed to vote for the first 5 years upon arrival?

Otherwise, these newly arrived Californians will spread their “liberal disease” at the polls, ruining everything. They voted for idiots, which is what got them into the mess California faces, but what will stop them from voting for more idiots?


25 posted on 04/13/2013 7:04:16 AM PDT by DNME (If it is time to bury your guns, perhaps it is time to take them out and use them instead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stars & stripes forever

The GOPe only has to herd 5 billionaires to build a consensus, four years before the election.

The Tea Party is dispersed among the people. We have to herd our own 40 million cats. Much more difficult task. We could have coalesced behind Sarah last time. It was a rare opportunity, which is what makes her decision so tragic.

We have a chance with Cruz this time, but we’re split between 3 or 4 candidates now.


26 posted on 04/13/2013 7:05:45 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Why am I still here?


27 posted on 04/13/2013 7:08:45 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
California is a Third World country containing a coastal ribbon of incredible wealth and innovation.

Its Democrats firmly believe their policies created the ribbon, when they actually created the Third World country surrounding it.

California's wealth (and its refusal to defend that wealth) has attracted every sort of looter imaginable. This allows it to serve a a kind of a high-tech flypaper for the nation - attracting undesirables that would otherwise be plaguing and damaging their home states.

California also attracts the best and brightest young people from the US and abroad - but it is only going to keep the few that can become successful enough to thrive in its surprisingly Darwinian industries. The politicians miss that last part, apparently not realizing at some point their state's "cool factor" isn't enough to make young $90K/year engineers buy run-down $900K houses in San Jose and settle in California for the long, tax-paying haul, when they can move to Austin, make the same money, and get much nicer houses for $250K.

California's problems may be fixable, but it will take a Reaganesque figure to turn the tide.

28 posted on 04/13/2013 7:24:30 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hugin
It is Chinese and/or Taiwanese with large amounts of cash. My wife's cousin-a really great guy-recently purchased a home in Orange County California. The real estate lady advised him that even when the purchase sale has been agreed to suddenly another person will offer cash and the initial sale will fall through. He made an offer and the seller reported they had received a bid in cash from a Chinaman 10% higher. The sellers, an old couple, loved the wife and kids and sold them the home any way. It is a beautiful home.

America is the world's bargain basment.

29 posted on 04/13/2013 7:37:52 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: bert

I saw that ad. Everything I’ve seen about New York doesn’t seem business friendly. What are they offering? Tax breaks then when the business get settled in, raise taxes and fees?


30 posted on 04/13/2013 7:46:37 AM PDT by Rusty0604
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: InABunkerUnderSF

The unions and environmentalists have perfected the art of advertising and pushing their agendas to the uninformed voters.


31 posted on 04/13/2013 7:49:55 AM PDT by Rusty0604
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: DNME

“How about a new state law, in Texas and other places, that new residents from other states are not allowed to vote for the first 5 years upon arrival?

Otherwise, these newly arrived Californians will spread their “liberal disease” at the polls, ruining everything. They voted for idiots, which is what got them into the mess California faces, but what will stop them from voting for more idiots?”

So true. I fled Oregon to come to Texas. I’m scared to death the “liberal disease” will infect my beloved Texas. Heaven help us......


32 posted on 04/13/2013 8:10:27 AM PDT by Oregon Betsy Ross
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: InABunkerUnderSF
It is the people of California who have buried themselves in never ending debt.

I cry b*S* to you and the gov't of California; I have voted NO and the majority of everyone I know has voted NO on every bond issue, tax hike, and fee put before us. I strongly suspect the elections are rigged in multiple-choice ways; whatever it takes to get the bond issue through. Certainly the legislature VOTED to put those issues on the public ballot anyways, so it's coming from the kleptocrats no matter how you slice it.

The electronic voting system (supposedly to address disabled voters), the vote-by-mail system - they all have demonstrable flaws which the elections officials have never addressed. ALL of the electronic voting systems in use or proposed for use were hacked by a team of researchers tasked with testing them out; but the POS SOS accepted the systems anyway!

GRRRRRRR!!!!!

33 posted on 04/13/2013 8:17:04 AM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Eric in the Ozarks
So sad. California looked so good when we returned from overseas in 1961.

Ditto, I passed through there in 1962, having returned from military service in South Korea. I thought it was an unbelievably beautiful state and prosperous as could be.

34 posted on 04/13/2013 8:22:22 AM PDT by OldPossum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: no-s

I’m witchoo.


35 posted on 04/13/2013 8:31:15 AM PDT by karnage
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: PowderMonkey
LOL! That’s why I left Virginia. It was being overrun by refugees fleeing New York.

Living in Virginia, I have long noticed the political climate changing as New Yorkers and other Yankees increasingly infest northern Virginia. Makes me very worried.

36 posted on 04/13/2013 8:31:54 AM PDT by OldPossum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Is it possible that one state has managed to top every 50-state category on the following shameful list?

Government here in Illinois is trying hard to catch up. Mark my words California, some day we will be #1.

I bet we have more former gov. officials in jail than you do right now.

37 posted on 04/13/2013 8:43:47 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stars & stripes forever
No more voting for the lesser of 2 evils

I gave it up after McCain and wish I had done it sooner.

38 posted on 04/13/2013 8:47:24 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: OldPossum

MSTS ship.
General W. A. Mann.

We made six crossings 1951-1961.


39 posted on 04/13/2013 8:48:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

E: How can anyone smart enough to launch and build a profitable company buy this BS, unless he’s getting some kind of tax break?

The Tonight Show (hosted for many years in CA by Jay Leno ), is MOVING TO NY ( to be hosted by Jimmy Fallon ).

And yes, there’s a tax break for NBC for moving to NY.


40 posted on 04/13/2013 9:45:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-52 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson