To: SeekAndFind
No matter how one cuts the pie, in practice the “Libertarian” position, devolves down to maximizing personal pleasure and the exercise of power over others.
13 posted on
03/22/2013 9:08:20 AM PDT by
AEMILIUS PAULUS
(It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
in practice the Libertarian position, devolves down to maximizing personal pleasure No, to allowing individuals to make that choice, or not, free of government coercion.
and the exercise of power over others.
Sounds like hogwash to me - how exactly does libertarianism do that?
16 posted on
03/22/2013 9:10:54 AM PDT by
JustSayNoToNannies
("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I certainly agree with that. Libertarians are a lot like Liberals -- they like their own pleasure, and they are very interested in powering over other people to get what they want. They don't like it when others coerce them but in my experience, Libertarians are forceful individuals who want what they want, and don't like it when folks get in their way. As I say: a lot like Liberals, only with a slightly different flavor.
18 posted on
03/22/2013 9:14:17 AM PDT by
ClearCase_guy
(The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
>> No matter how one cuts the pie, in practice the Libertarian position, devolves down to maximizing personal pleasure and the exercise of power over others.
The Libertarian Party is largely occupied by fools that exemplify your point — they are liberals.
It is important to understand, however, that libertarianism is the opposite of statism. And by dismissing libertarianism, the politics shift in favor of the statism now eroding our liberties.
There are many self-described libertarians that are eager to join the Constitutional revivification of the Country. To shun them is foolish. To believe it requires sacrificing Conservative principles is also foolish.
28 posted on
03/22/2013 9:26:21 AM PDT by
Gene Eric
(The Palin Doctrine.)
To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
In no way can libertarianism philosophically justify exercise of coercive power over another and in practice...wait...it's not in practice is it? Enlightened self interest is not the same thing as personal pleasure either but I suspect you knew that.
40 posted on
03/22/2013 9:37:45 AM PDT by
Durus
(You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
"No matter how one cuts the pie, in practice the Libertarian position, devolves down to maximizing personal pleasure and the exercise of power over others."
Your pie cutter is broken.
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