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Posted on 03/22/2013 8:51:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Never get your information about libertarians from liberals.
I get my info about libertarianism from the Libertarian Party website and discussing with them on FR.
FF, you did not adress my comment about state laws against immorality such as sodomy, pornography/obscenity and the like. The Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution knew about such laws, approved of them, and even wrote some of them.
Do you, as libertarian, think that states either CAN or SHOULD have such laws against immoral and behavior?
Do you really think that the Founding Fathers would agree with the parts of the LP platform wanting, for instance, no laws against porn, abortion, prostitutes, sodomy, all drugs (meth, whatever) and open borders with anyone who wants sauntering right in? The FF had no problem with states having laws against immoral behavior. No libertarians ever adress this, no matter how many times I ask them particularly about this. They totally ignore that, and as such, they all debate (I use that term loosely) dishonestly.
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>> Do you really think that the Founding Fathers would agree with the parts of the LP platform
Absolutely not. The LP platform is literally a perversion of libertarianism.
I think that if two or more consenting adults want to film themselves having sex they should be free to do so. If consenting adults wish to purchase those films I believe they should be free to do so as well.
Clear enough for you?
“far closer”?
closer
liberal tarians have more in common with the radical left than the right wing.
drugs
homosexuality
hell some have said incest woudl be alright and had one liberal tarian tell me so what if a sister wants to marry a brother.
cut the military
hell some supported Paul over getting rid of CIA, FBI
When they don;t get their way they are like little children and even if someone tells them they are not conservatives then they go full tantrum.
I;ve not read the thread yet but I;’m sure we’ll see maybe omne who will be defending liberal tarians but pretend not to be one and then post numerous times
LOL
your posts all make good points.
Founding fathers liberal-tarians, LOL, yea they really want drugs, homosexuality, sham marriages and America weaker because the military was cut
Well then, why do libertarians agree with the LP platform? Or rather, why don’t people who call themselves libertarians but disagree with the LP call themselves something else? It’s like calling myself a communist but then claiming that I disagree with what the Communist Party says.
They talk about nanny state government and so on, but then when I ask is it okay for STATES, not the fedgov, to makes lawas against, for instance, sodomy or prostitution or incest, they NEVER EVER EVER answer.
EVER.
Btw, I am still confused as to why Libs CANNOT understand, as stated on the Homepage of Freepublic, that this is a CONSERVATIVE website, NOT Lib(ertarian)(eral)... :p
Makes me wonder about their comprehension level ;)
Well, choose another name then, if you don’t agree with the LP. AFAIC, anyone calling themselves a libertarian, large L or small, agrees with the LP platform. If they don’t, then call thesmelves something else.
It’s a form of mental illness to say “I’m a libertarian but I don’t agree with the Libertarian Party”. And then if I ask them to delineate which things they disagree with, I never get much of an answer.
I think it’s that the LP has so stunk up the atmosphere people who agree with it just don’t want to openly admit it and claim that they don’t agree. Duplicity is the order of the day in discussions with Libertarians or libertarians. That has been my years long experience. I’ll say EXACTLY what I mean, stand for, and believe, and I get freaking gobbledy gook and slogans in return.
Life is too short to discuss things with people who use duplicity as debate tactic.
Have you stopped beating your wife/hubby?
People who use drugs cannot think rationally.
that is because they want to do anything and have it legal, all about them and what they want to do.
I’ve had some wacky debates and arguments with soem fo them.
incest alright
with animals alright
no military
no CIA, FBI
legal all drugs
sell drugs next to schools
get rid of sex age law
The bumper sticker slogan of Govt should tell people what to do camn be used for anything and it;s a bit like the homosexuals using their arguments of love, my business, doesn;t hurt you, get rid of Govt in marriage can all be used for any kind of marriage
In the end they;re calling for anarchy and are no different to the occupy tools.
The marriage topic is a classic
Govt out of it out when I’;ve asked about Govt is there and they decide on who get the house, the kids, the money, who pays what, marriage certificate, blood test they clam up.
I did however have one liberal tarian state how the rev should tell who gets the kids , like that woudl ever work as he can;t enforce it.
The post did not try to do what you scurrilously accused, but we are learning that to mischaracterize is your modus operendi.
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