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Pa. House liquor committee approves sale of state store system
Morning Call ^ | 03/19/13 | Steve Esack

Posted on 03/19/2013 6:04:56 AM PDT by P.O.E.

In his Clark, Mercer County, home, that's old enough to understand the anguish his parents have faced over whether Billie will lose her hourly $21.48 salary and family health benefits as an assistant manager of a state liquor store if the Legislature agrees to privatize the sale of wine and spirits stores as Gov. Tom Corbett wants.

His mom is now one step closer to losing her job.

After a four-hour hearing Monday, the House Liquor Control Committee voted 14-10 along party lines to end the state's 80-year-old monopoly on the sale of booze as the Republican governor proposed as part of his $28.4 billion spending plan for 2013-14. The full House is scheduled to vote on the bill Thursday, and, if approved, the bill would move to the Senate for consideration before going to Corbett.

The bill the committee adopted is not as grand as Corbett had wanted and its projected proceeds of a sale would be $200 million lower than the governor's $1 billion estimate. Corbett would spend the money on public education.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: paliquorstores; pastatestores
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To: old and tired; IC Ken

State store employees are allowed to offer wine suggestions now. They didn’t use to be.


21 posted on 03/19/2013 8:43:08 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: nevermorelenore

As I recall we tried prohibition once. Rather not have the government tell anyone what to drink or what guns to own. Personal responsibility should govern both these things, and education about proper use and hazards should be taught in the schools just like driver training.


22 posted on 03/19/2013 9:01:03 AM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: JeanLM

just saying....
when my plethora of cousins ( who all grew up in Christian homes ) ask us what’s “different” about our family and why there’s not a single broken home or black sheep - could be many factors, and defintiely the Grace of God, for sure....
but no alcohol use by my folks, brothers, their wives, their kids, and ours is unique and part of our Family Covenant.

we’re not Mormon or any small group of believers, just our family conviction that has, we believe, been one factor to us to be sober and vigilant. Not a popular choice, but works for us.


23 posted on 03/19/2013 9:19:38 AM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: P.O.E.
Just a magic $800M for schools. <

And getting the state out of a business it has no business being in.

24 posted on 03/19/2013 9:39:30 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: JeanLM
Neighboring states reap the benefits in sales. NJ, Maryland benefit the most.

When I lived in Cincinnati, I encountered my first state liquor store. Surly help, awkward shopping, unpleasant retail experience.

Subsequently, I discovered that Kentucky retailers could actually deliver in Cincinnati. Somehow, commerce between Boone, Kenton and Campbell Counties, KY and Hamilton County, OH had been exempted from consideration as "interstate commerce" and the Kentucky retailers exported their product across the state line with impunity.

25 posted on 03/19/2013 9:47:00 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: P.O.E.
...whether Billie will lose her hourly $21.48 salary and family health benefits as an assistant manager of a state liquor store...

Will someone do an equally competent job in that position for fifteen dollars an hour and no benefits? She needs to show the private ownership to come that she is worth what she's been paid. Remember, a state store doesn't have to make a profit, unlike a private business.

26 posted on 03/19/2013 10:41:56 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: nevermorelenore
...this stuff is not only in the mix of many fatalities on the road, but ruins homes/lives. But take our guns...

This stuff helps 'em keep us drunk, stupid and easier to control. < /sarc >

27 posted on 03/19/2013 10:46:36 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Weed, on the other hand needs to be legalized because it keeps you stupid, psychotic and high, right?


28 posted on 03/19/2013 11:32:53 AM PDT by Eva
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29 posted on 03/19/2013 12:32:50 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: P.O.E.

I remember when I moved from Ohio to Indiana I was surprised you could go into most any beverage or food store and buy booze.


30 posted on 03/19/2013 12:38:19 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: P.O.E.

Forty year ago I was a security guard at the gigantic PA state liquor warehouse near the Philly airport.

Inside the warehouse was packed on pallets to the ceiling with every imaginable brand and description of booze, most of which I have never seen anywhere in my adult life.

Booze came in by railroad car on a siding in the back. Yup, railroad cars full of Johnny Walker, etc.

During the day and army of workers would pack full-sized truck trailers with a variety of spirits destined for particular state stores and lock up the trailers at the end of the day shift.

Overnight the loaded trailers would sit in the parking lot awaiting the day shift truck drivers with the tractors who would head out on their delivery route.

My job was to make rounds around the trailer parking lot and keep the loaded trailers from being hijacked in the wee hours of the morning. The subcontracting security company that hired me provided my with a loaded .38 for my shift that I would turn over to the next shift, but I had never had any training or certification on any firearm.

I wasn’t there long. I left there to begin my very interesting stint as a “correctional officer” at Graterford prison, a PA maximum security unit.


31 posted on 03/19/2013 12:41:04 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: nevermorelenore
personally, I feel the stuff causes more fatalities, and messes up more lives than it’s worth.

It's not your place or government's to violate adults' rights to protect other adults. And have you heard how many fatalities and messed-up lives resulted from our last attempt to ban alcohol?

32 posted on 03/19/2013 12:55:47 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: nevermorelenore

Good for you. I personally like a glass if wine with dinner. And my life, family, & morals are just fine.

This article is about gov being in control of a “retail” market. Safe your sanctimonious crap for another thread.


33 posted on 03/19/2013 2:27:00 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: P.O.E.

Back in the 60’s & 70’s I can also recall the “Beer Distributor” in our small Pittsburgh suburb. It was like a drive-through garage where they sold beer and pop, and put it right into the trunk of your car for you.


34 posted on 03/19/2013 2:28:43 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: nevermorelenore

Yes, we have some very sweet non-drinking families in our neighborhood. They’re dumb as can be, but very sweet.


35 posted on 03/19/2013 3:34:23 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: MarineBrat
I remember getting returnable bottled soda in wooden crates. We also had these things:

to put in the tops of partially-empty soda bottles.

36 posted on 03/19/2013 3:51:23 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I’m not violating anybody’s rights
And, as of today, still have the freedom to share my opinion. It’s an opinion.
You don’t have to like it -most people don’t, but I have the right to state it


37 posted on 03/19/2013 3:57:10 PM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: Born to Conserve

Well, I’m not dumb!
My kids are neuroradiologists and engineers and they did ‘t get it from their dad....
But yes, very sweet, as well ....


38 posted on 03/19/2013 4:06:18 PM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: nevermorelenore
personally, I feel the stuff causes more fatalities, and messes up more lives than it’s worth.

It's not your place or government's to violate adults' rights to protect other adults. And have you heard how many fatalities and messed-up lives resulted from our last attempt to ban alcohol?

I’m not violating anybody’s rights
And, as of today, still have the freedom to share my opinion.

Is your opinion that adults' rights to drink alcohol should be violated to protect other adults?

39 posted on 03/20/2013 7:46:05 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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