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To: steve86
You don’t understand Catholicism!

The Catholic Church is always pushing for more government aid for poor people. Why should I pay to support kids who resulted from their ban on contraception?

58 posted on 03/18/2013 5:02:15 PM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Retired Chemist
"The Catholic Church is always pushing for more government aid for poor people"

Huh? I suppose there have been left-wing style social justice advocates, nominally of the church, who've advocated such a thing, but the true Catholic position -- and this is the actual meaning of social justice -- is to obtain critical i.e. food and housing aid to the poor from the most local level first and then move up if absolutely necessary. For example: family, church, employer if any, charity...and if all those fail then government might be the next step but only for essentials, not frills.

Why should I pay to support kids who resulted from their ban on contraception?

Well, in truly needy cases -- and where the local effort has failed -- I believe in helping out children regardless of what their parents did or did not do. This would seem to be consistent with tenets of Christianity.

59 posted on 03/18/2013 5:21:29 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Retired Chemist
No kids "result" from the Catholic Church's teaching of Christian morality.

For one thing, few to none of the kids who become welfare state dependants were conceived and borne by devout Humanae Vitae Catholic married couples. Most state dependents are begotten and borne by unmarried couples.

Secondly, unmarried people have a moral obligation to abstain from sexual intercourse. Married people have a moral obligation to procreate responsibly, i.e. to have kids they can reasonably expect to support; and to limit births by moral means if they have a grave reason to avoid more pregnancies.

Hence the Catholic Church is not to be held responsible for fornication and abortion, which would be reduced to zero if people lived an observant Catholic life.

None of the moral law subjects YOU (or anybody else) to an obligation to support an irresponsible, dependency-creating, secular welfare state agenda.

64 posted on 03/18/2013 6:33:24 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you. May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: Retired Chemist
The Catholic Church is always pushing for more government aid for poor people.

It IS??

Who knew!!!

69 posted on 03/19/2013 5:30:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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