Posted on 03/18/2013 7:09:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
With the election of Pope Francis, there has been an almost "catholic" attempt to determine if he is liberal or conservative. CBS claims he is a "staunch conservative" based on the fact that, as correspondent Allen Pizzey put it, he "opposes abortion, supports celibacy, and called gay adoption discrimination against children," not to mention his opposition to faux marriage.
Tingle Central's Chris Matthews said that the new pontiff is economically "progressive," which, if we were to be informed by actual statistics, should mean he wouldn't give one red cent to anybody. But none of these analysts will peg the pope because they're using the provisional to understand a man defined by an institution based in the perpetual. And the reality is this: the terms "liberal," "conservative," and "moderate" are, in the truest sense, meaningless in Catholic circles. And understanding why holds a lesson for all of us.
Republican Ohio senator Rob Portman recently announced that he now supports faux marriage, and other self-proclaimed conservatives, such as CNN News' Margaret Hoover, have long done so. On the other hand, conservative Cliff Kincaid was recently scored by Michelle Malkin's site Twitchy for writing, "There is no such thing as a 'gay conservative,' unless the term 'conservative' has lost all meaning," prompting Renew America's Bryan Fischer to accuse the Malkinites of "trying to redefine conservatism." But Kincaid gets it close to right and Fischer is wrong.
Conservatism never had enduring meaning because it was never truly defined in the first place.
Understand that all places and times -- that is, all modern times -- have had their conservatives. Europe has its conservatives, but their general attitude toward faux marriage ranges from support to blithe indifference, and they don't trouble much over abortion.
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Thank you for the suggestions. I know very little of the history of the Church other than New Testament and first century teachings. Because the Protestant Faith doesn’t concern itself with church history a lot of us are ignorant of it. I personally think our history as Christians is important. I also feel that somehow us protestants have lost the art of worship. This is something that my Catholic brothers just do better. Of course this is my opinion and I am not in anyway speaking for anyone.
And yet very rarely are they denied communion.
Doesn't "not in good standing" demand this?
I’m hip!
Do you speak of the charming Cardinal Dolan, who spends much time pushing for the favor of illegals, and the rest of the Latinos who went for BO by 76%?
Can a whip cracker be someone who acts with a single purpose with the rule of law, or truth, in mind, a la Ted Cruz vs. Feinstein, Clinton, Leahy?
Then this might be our man.
Not that Cruz is Catholic, and I’ve read he is not, but humility, not to be confused with wimpiness is the Catholic version of whippin; as you call it.
We shall see.
It sounds to me that you think your truth is The Truth. Look closer at the Church, you will see Truth’s that will change your life, for the better.
Then Scott Hahn is good. “Rome Sweet Home” is the go to book.
Nothing could be further from the truth. The political agenda and disinformation from the MSM can not define any man of faith, virtue and spirituality. It most certainly can not define the Pope.
The world today is in the midst of a battle between good and evil in which the Washington insiders and MSM are low ranking foot soldiers on the side of evil. To be successful a Pope, and any Christian for that matter, must be far above them.
What is a Peckerwood Catholic?
Agreed. Hopefully he’s working for God.
A militant is a person engaged in aggressive verbal or physical combat. It has come to define leftists, communists and others living in free societies who try to profit from aggressive political behavior. There are no militants in totalitarian states.
You are correct that there is no such thing as a militant Catholic. The thing to understand about leftists and evil doers in general, they never show what they truly are. They always lie. Someone who calls themselves a militant Catholic, a liberal Catholic, a Progressive Catholic or a Catholic for “choice” is in reality nothing but a liar.
A white one
Peckerwood is slang for white
In prison flicks the white prisoners always say if it ain’t wood it’s no damn good
And so forth
It is possible that he is unable to genuflect, we do not know the state of his joints, he is 76. At the St Anne’s Mass yesterday, his bow was profound after the Consecration. It behooves us always to exercise Christian charity in thought, word and deed.
Nope, you are wrong. The Bible holds the truths that we need. There is nothing in me that makes anything a truth.
The foundation of Christianity is Christ because he is “the way, the Truth, and the life.” John 14:6
I don’t need the Catholic Church to be in fellowship with God through Jesus. Jesus is the hope of all mankinds souls, not any church/organization of men.
Not a fan of prison flicks I guess.
That said, there are 26 rites within the Church that have developed since Apostolic times, the largest of these is the Roman Rite, which you are, no doubt, most familiar with. These rites all believe the same Creed, but the expressions and chant style, etc., differ somewhat. No matter the rite, the Church believes and follows the teachings of Jesus.
The Jesuit (The Society of Jesus, to give it its formal name) order was founded by St Ignatius Loyola to teach the Gospel and bring Jesus to the far reaches of the globe. Many places in this country are named for the Jesuit missionaries who preached to the Native Americans. St Francis Xavier, a Jesuit, was the first Christian missionary in Japan, along the way he preached in India as well. Of course, there was already some Catholics there as St Thomas the Apostle went there after the death and resurrection of Our Lord.
The Jesuits are all highly educated men. My teacher had 7 languages and 2 doctorates. When the Jesuits are good, they are very good, but sadly, in the 60's and 70's many were sucked into Liberation theology, which is actually just warmed over Marxism. This was rife in South America. The current Pope was against this and so he was treated badly by many of the other members in Argentina. He was sent off to the hinterlands to teach and was very happy there until Pope Benedict called upon him to become a Bishop and ultimately, a Cardinal.
I hope this answer is helpful to you.
The ONE in charge of Christianity is Jesus, HE is the Rock that the church (world wide body of believers) is built on. You are correct that the Pope is the administrative head of the Catholic Church, but he is not necessary for believers to be in communion/relationship with Jesus.
I hope your pope serves the Catholic Church well, but to me, it doesn’t matter one iota who the Pope is or what his personal beliefs are.
Yes. Very helpful. Thank you. I don’t know if this is true, but I have also read that Pope Francis had previously ministered in an Episcopal church. This could be why his mannerisms are familiar to me.
As Christians our differences in faith are more doctrinal. We all believe the same thing. Its a shame that we can’t have common ground. Anyone who can bring us closer as a united faith is a good thing, in my humble, not so well informed opinion that is.
Thanks again brother!
I am a protestant, however, like it or not the Pope is the earthly representative of the Christian faith. The Pope is a Christian and as a Christian he is our brother. When our Catholic brothers are attacked, infiltrated, or asked to capitulate it should be our duty to defend them.
We really need to try and put our differences behind. Its been almost a thousand years.
Please allow me to add that I meant this as a respectful disagreement and not a personal attack.
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