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House defeats minimum wage increase
The Washington Times ^ | March 15, 2013 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 03/15/2013 11:39:13 AM PDT by jazusamo

The House on Friday rejected a Democratic push to raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10, shooting down one of President Obama’s priorities from his State of the Union speech.

The 233-184 defeat also exposed divisions within the Democratic Party. Where Mr. Obama called for a hike from the current $7.25 to $9 an hour, congressional Democrats pushed for a $10.10 rate.

But they couldn’t muster unity even within their own ranks. Six Democrats from conservative-leaning districts voted against the wage increase, as did every single Republican who was present.

“We need jobs out there. The best approach right now is to get federal spending under control and government out of the way of the nation’s job creators,” said Rep. John Kline, Minnesota Republican, who led the opposition.

Mr. Obama’s call for a hike to $9 an hour reportedly caught labor advocates off guard. They had been working towards the $10.10 figure.

The White House has not weighed in on the $10.10 raise.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: minimumwage
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1 posted on 03/15/2013 11:39:13 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Should be lowering it.

As an alternative, a poor one, of eliminating it.


2 posted on 03/15/2013 11:41:15 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: jazusamo

Why not $20? $100?


3 posted on 03/15/2013 11:46:54 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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To: Sybeck1

The Rats would just love that and the union thug leaders.


4 posted on 03/15/2013 11:50:28 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Just a joke of course. It went up to $7.25 in 2007 (I think?) What exactly has happened to unemployment since then?


5 posted on 03/15/2013 11:54:43 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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To: Sybeck1

Here in liberal Washington state the minimum wage just went to $9.19 and it’s tough for teens and college kids to find jobs, even part time.


6 posted on 03/15/2013 12:09:52 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Sybeck1

Darn it. I was going to use that to support the family of four I wanted.


7 posted on 03/15/2013 12:10:18 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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” - - - and 14 Republicans defecting to vote against it. - - - “

Who are the 14 RINOs?


8 posted on 03/15/2013 12:36:40 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: jazusamo
If they hike the minimum wage I hope they're prepared to pay $5 for a taco.

Since the democrats cannot understand the very simplest things than how on earth could they ever be trusted to solve anything complex?

Democrats ruin absolutely everything they touch and their greed is at the heart of everything they do and say.

9 posted on 03/15/2013 12:44:49 PM PDT by Bullish (A genuine President wouldn't allow the Obama's on the White House grounds)
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To: Graewoulf

Likely repubs from left-leaning districts who are afraid of losing their seats though I can’t say for sure.


10 posted on 03/15/2013 12:45:58 PM PDT by what's up
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To: jazusamo

Mandatory $7.25 here in, ‘The People’s Republik of Madistan.’ Most entry level people aren’t even worth THAT around here.


11 posted on 03/15/2013 12:47:31 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: jazusamo

The Democrat’s proposal to raise the minimum wage was nothing more than a political ploy. They knew damn well that the Republicans, being more fiscally responsible, would have to defeat it. Now Obama the outsider has another issue with which to attack Republicans.


12 posted on 03/15/2013 12:50:59 PM PDT by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yep, I’m sure it’s as bad here, there’s definitely a lack of work ethic compared to years ago.


13 posted on 03/15/2013 12:59:56 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: upsdriver

Agreed...Obama knew damn well it wouldn’t get through the House.


14 posted on 03/15/2013 1:05:09 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo; All
The states have never delegated to Congress via the Constitution the specific power to regulate minimum wage. And regardless what FDR's activist justices said about Congress's Commerce Clause powers in Wickard v. Filburn, these outcome-driven justices wrongly ignored not only Thomas Jefferson's official clarification of the limits of Congress's Commerce Clause powers, but also Justice John Marshall's official clarification of these limited powers.
“For the power given to Congress by the Constitution does not extend to the internal regulation of the commerce of a State, (that is to say of the commerce between citizen and citizen,) which remain exclusively (emphases added) with its own legislature; but to its external commerce only, that is to say, its commerce with another State, or with foreign nations, or with the Indian tribes.” –Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson’s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791.

"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress (emphases added)." --Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Base on a discussion in a related thread, possibly the reason that businessmen comply with constitutionally indefensible federal minimal wage laws is because they don't understand Congress's Section 8-limited powers imo.

15 posted on 03/15/2013 1:12:22 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: jazusamo

Let the market set the wages. Enough said!


16 posted on 03/15/2013 1:13:55 PM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: jazusamo

The minimum wage law is a full employment act for illegals who get paid under the table.


17 posted on 03/15/2013 1:49:45 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: jazusamo

My first part-time job paid $.76 an hour which I got because I could crank out collection letters on a manual typewriter mistake free at 85 wpm. No breaks when you worked all day Saturday except 20 minutes for lunch, no food or beverages at your desk, no talking on the phone or with your co-workers unless it was work related. And there was no acceptable reason for being late or absent. Was 1957, small town USA, part-time jobs were pretty scarce and I was so glad to have that one.

Not many 17 year olds would accept such a job now, regardless of the pay.


18 posted on 03/15/2013 2:35:48 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: C210N

“As an alternative, a poor one, of eliminating it.”

Why do you think that elimination of the minimum wage is a poor idea? Why should any government entity have any say in what businesses pay their employees. For a lot of “poor” folks, a job at five bucks trumps waiting for someone who is willing to pay you $10. Thus far, government hasn’t passed legislation requiring that a private employer hire people even if they can’t afford them or don’t need them! But that may be next!


19 posted on 03/15/2013 2:55:40 PM PDT by vette6387
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Ah, my meaning was that lowering the minwage was the poor alternative. The overwhelming preference is of elimination.

Sorry, for the poor semantics.


20 posted on 03/15/2013 3:26:31 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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