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To: BroJoeK

Take a look at that 1860 election and ask yourself if you believe a man who obtained 30 percent of the electorate was fit to become president.


83 posted on 03/10/2013 10:06:59 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

The Constitution did not say if 5 people decided to run, that the guy that got the most votes from that lot is “unfit” because the majority % needed to win would be less than 50%.

He won fair and square.


86 posted on 03/10/2013 10:14:28 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: JCBreckenridge
Take a look at that 1860 election and ask yourself if you believe a man who obtained 30 percent of the electorate was fit to become president.

Lincoln got 40% of the electorate, and almost 60% of the electoral vote. So yes, he was fit to be president. Certainly more fit than any of the other candidates were if all you're going on if vote totals.

88 posted on 03/10/2013 10:18:50 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: JCBreckenridge

Cain-tucky is heard from! And with good reason for observing the 30%, as well as being VP, Sec. of War, Brigadier General and genuine gentleman, leader and scholar.


89 posted on 03/10/2013 10:20:27 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: JCBreckenridge
JCBreckenridge: "Take a look at that 1860 election and ask yourself if you believe a man who obtained 30 percent of the electorate was fit to become president."

You know, I'm not certain if you and I haven't debated this question before... indeed, you nom de FReep ;-) suggests you may know a thing or two about that 1860 election.

If so, then you may remember that I argue Lincoln was only conceivably elected in 1860 because the Southern Slave-Power, which had ruled the republic since its founding in 1788, suddenly in 1860 committed political suicide by splitting its majority Democrat party into two minority regional parties -- northern and southern.

These two Democrat regional parties allowed Republicans to become majorities in enough northern states to carry a majority of the electoral college.

Yes, I well know the objections to my suggestion, and the answer is: elections are matters of emotion as much as counting numbers.
When Democrats split their majority party in half, many former Democrats realized they had no incentive to vote for an obviously regional minority party.
They split up, some joined the Republicans, others in critical states like Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee voted for John Bell's Constitutional Union party.

Had the slave-holding "Fire Eaters" been willing to stay with their "Dough-faced" Northern Democrat allies, 1860's outcome could have been quite different.

124 posted on 03/10/2013 11:24:04 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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