[central_va]

Lincoln was a fascist in my opinion. Maybe the first fascist.

Union uber alles

There is no argument to lose; you are regurgitating the same reconstructed bull$h1t history we were all ladled in public school. No original thought here on your part. You are showing yourself to be well indoctrinated, just like a good little Nazi.

How indoctrinated does someone get when they think the South is NOT the most conservative region in the USA? How f-ed up is your mind?

You can't even concede on well established current facts how could anyone convince you about 150 ago? You fit the classic definition of a brainwashed person, which is what the public school do to children. Perhaps you went to private school; I have no idea, I am a product of the public school inculcation and the reconstructed BS history they espouse myself. Some as adults, study original sources and rise above it, some don't.

[BroJoeK]

central_va: "Lincoln was a fascist in my opinion. Maybe the first fascist. Union uber alles"

Calling Lincoln "fascist" is just as ludicrous as calling, say, George Washington a "fascist".
Both loved their country, neither was a "fascist".

First of all, the political word "fascism" wasn't even invented until the First World War and Mussolini's party in Italy, so nobody before that could necessarily match Mussolini's definition.

Second, fascists all claimed to be socialists -- i.e., National Socialists -- which in no way describes George Washington or Lincoln.

Third, like Washington's, Lincoln's actions merely defeated a military power that not only provoked and started war against the United States, but in the Confederacy's case, formally declared war on the United States.

So there's nothing "fascist" about defeating a declared enemy of the United States.

[Jay Redhawk]

“Lincoln was a fascist in my opinion. Maybe the first fascist.”

I don’t disagree with you on that, but I think modern research is starting to reflect that Lincoln was likely a bi-polar closet queer.

[BroJoeK]

central_va: "you are regurgitating the same reconstructed bull$h1t history we were all ladled in public school.
No original thought here on your part.
You are showing yourself to be well indoctrinated, just like a good little Nazi."

There is your third time posting "that word", which by common understanding means you have now three-times admitted to losing the argument, and so resort to nothing but name-calling.

But more to your point: in the immortal words of John Adams and Ronald Reagan:

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

So whatever facts we learned in school, they are still facts, no matter how much we might wish otherwise.
Yes, of course, there may well be more facts, which would change the picture considerably, but those have to be carefully establish.

And your repeated use of "that word" does not change any facts, FRiend. ;-)

central_va: "Some as adults, study original sources and rise above it, some don't."

Sorry, but "original sources" don't support Neo-Confederate revisionists' "history", since it is only a collection of myths intended to salve "wounded pride" in descendants of the losing side.

[donmeaker]

I submit that you reveal yourself immune from brain washing with every post.

Gots to have one to be subject to getting it washed.