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To: Varda

“Jews were allies of the Muslims during the conquest of Spain. They along with Muslims were given an amnesty of a kind after the Spanish recounquered their land.”

Wow, talk about a half-truth.

There were just as many Jews on the side of Spain as against the muslims, especially in the Spanish Navy where they proved to be excellent seamen.

The reason for the Expulsion and Inquision (according the official Roman Catholic Church apology) was greed. The Jews had done well in Spain and had lent money to the royals and the Church who jointly concocted bullshit excuses to force conversions and/or kick them out of the country.

I am 100% proud Roman Catholic, and I am sick and tired of schismatics like you who sully the work we have done to recocile with the very un-Christlike things we stupid humans did in the name of His Church.


31 posted on 03/06/2013 11:33:40 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
The reference may be to the original Muslim conquest in the 700s--the Jews were not happy with how they had been treated by the Visigoths, if I remember correctly.

Ivo Andric was a Nobel-Prize-winning writer from Bosnia. In one of his novels, Bosnian Chronicle, set in Travnik in the Napoleonic era, he has a Sephardic Jewish man thinking about what a wonderful life his ancestors had had in Spain until they were forced to leave.

35 posted on 03/06/2013 11:47:10 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: TheThirdRuffian
It's called simple history. Generalizations are the norm when talking about historical groups. It says nothing about what some individuals may have done. I doubt this Jewish author considers his work a "half-truth" when he says,
"According to surviving records, Jews helped the Arabs in many places. From Syria to Spain, they opened city gates to the besieging armies; and in Spain, they often garrisoned the captured cities to enable the Muslims to sweep on to further conquests. " (Lucien Gubbay -The Jews of Arabia)

"The reason for the Expulsion and Inquision (according the official Roman Catholic Church apology) was greed."

Do you have a link for this?

38 posted on 03/06/2013 12:50:34 PM PST by Varda
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