What does DHS need with 2,700 armored vehicles? (and why have they bought a billion bullets?)

American Thinker ^ | 03/04/2013 | Rick Moran

[SeekAndFind]

More to the point; why isn't anyone in Congress asking?

You see a story like this - and the one about a billion bullets bought by the government - and you wonder why no one in Congress has bothered to look into it. I am totally unconvinced there are any dark designs by DHS on American citizens or our democracy. But this seems a colossal waste of money - if true - and isn't ferreting out waste like this what we are paying those jamokes on Capitol Hill for?

Jim Hoft writes:

Modern Survival Blog reported:

The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these 'Mine Resistant Protected' vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.

Although I've seen and read several online blurbs about this vehicle of late, I decided to dig slightly deeper and discover more about the vehicle itself.

The new DHS sanctioned 'Street Sweeper' (my own slang due to the gun ports) is built by Navistar Defense (NavistarDefense.com), a division within the Navistar organization. Under the Navistar umbrella are several other companies including International Trucks, IC Bus (they make school buses), Monaco RV (recreational vehicles), WorkHorse (they make chassis), MaxxForce (diesel engines), and Navistar Financial (the money arm of the company).

[Texas Eagle]

Yup.

It's for your own good, don't you see.

[wolficatZ]

” I have seen a ton of these as a trucker over the last month or two. Lots are being shipped out to California.

I have also seen lots of other refurbished military hummers and other equipment being devielered across the lower 48 states.

None of them have decals or emblems on them.”

(comment on DR FB)

[originalbuckeye]

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[concerned about politics]

Urbansurvival.....

"War On Americans.

As one report began, this is getting a little creepy with the word that Homeland Security has put out an order for 2,700 light-armored tanks...just the thing to go with 1.6 billion rounds of hollow point, don'tcha think? And you thought the Bushitas we grounds for conspiracy thoughts?

As I've said before, there is a building case here that there is some 'hidden force" running the agenda of the US government over the past 20-years, or so, and it's like there's no functional difference between presidents...

And whoever it is, they clearly have a vision of having to maintain social order when the financial system blows up - which sure seems to be what they're planning for. 2,700 APC's can't be wronge, can they? And for local police? WTF?"

AND, they're trying desperately to disarm us. Why? Cars kill more people than guns.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Yep. The late John Murtha used stuff like this constantly to prop-up his incredibly corrupt three-decade career in the US House.

[JOAT]

"Molotov cocktail, the local drink
And all she wants to do is dance
Mix 'em up right in the kitchen sink
And all she wants to do is dance"

Also, thermite in copious quantities applied directly over the engine area while these sit idle.

Standing armies were discouraged by the Founders for a reason.

Looks like we get to find out why soon.

[JOAT]

"Molotov cocktail, the local drink
And all she wants to do is dance
Mix 'em up right in the kitchen sink
And all she wants to do is dance"

Also, thermite in copious quantities applied directly over the engine area while these sit idle.

Standing armies were discouraged by the Founders for a reason.

Looks like we get to find out why soon.

[rlmorel]

"POLICE/RESCUE????

Well. I accept that at face value. I am not at all concerned. I feel better seeing that.

(Do I even need to add it?)

[Terry Mross]

Looks like the army to me.

[Iron Munro]

Apparently the Sequestration budget cuts isn't affecting the build-up and arming of "Janetalia's Army".

Anyone who can't see, or won't admit, that Obama is arming DHS and other government agencies in preparation for war against citizens, against people he identifies as "Bitter Clingers", isn't looking or is on Obama's side and against the US Constitution.

This is a violation of the spirit and intent of the Posse Comitatus Act . It is just another sleazy liberal end-run around the law of the land and the rights of US Citizens. Obama and his "Progressive" henchmen wipe their feet on the US Constitution and the sheeple lick their boots.

The purchase of 2,700 MRAP's certainly isn't to aid in apprehending muslim terrorists boarding aircraft. We know they aren't planning a land war with Mexico or Canada. And we know the administration doesn't care who crosses the border illegally. That leaves only one group of people as the potential targets for such a large militia - American citizens.

What is next on their Wish List? M1 Abrams tanks? A fleet of 10,000 armed, Vietnam style river boats? How about an armed DHS "Security Office" on every street corner in every city, village and subdivision? How long before DHS is patrolling every bus station, train station, truck stop, marina, factory, farm and rural landing strip?

DHS is going to end up with one of the largest and best armed militia forces in the world and their weapons are all trained inward toward law abiding citizens of the USA.

There is a reason Obama is pushing so hard for the right to use drones to kill Americans he declares to be terrorists. It is only one small step for Obama to go from claiming that right on foreign soil to claiming the same authority against "terrorists" within our own borders. And it is only another small step for him to claim the right to kill those same Americans with weapons other than drones.

Any republican senator or congressman who buys into giving Obama the authority to kill an America Obama himself declares to be a terrorist is signing a death warrant for the citizens they represent.

[1010RD]

POLICE/RESCUE????

[MrB]

Maybe it’s “Police Rescue”...

[Gen.Blather]

“And whoever it is, they clearly have a vision of having to maintain social order when the financial system blows up - which sure seems to be what they’re planning for. 2,700 APC’s can’t be wronge, can they? And for local police? WTF?””

Tanks are really only good for limited things. They can kill lots of people in, say, a Glen Beck rally where a million people show up to protest something. (I was in DC for the 9/11 rally.) But Tea Partiers will not riot. The tanks would only be used once. Assuming a war broke out and assuming 25% of the 330 million people are going to be on Tea Party side, that’s 82 million people. That would be the largest army on Earth. DHS in tanks don’t go to a protected Army base at night, they go to the suburbs. The Tea Partiers would find them at home and kill them there. Also, DHS is not full of trained troops. They’re bureaucrats with guns.

Also, Israel, China and Russia will start sending help. Missiles, technical help, money…

No civil war goes as planned. It would be messy and the “government” would lose. Consider too that the military will not sit idly by while civilians are slaughtered.

[Paladin2]

They are Government Death Panel Tanks.

[concerned about politics]

"WE" cannot continue to rely on our military..........
in order to achieve the national security objectives "WE'VE" set. "WE'VE" got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” ----- oboma.

Who is "WE"?
Who is the "WE" that doesn't think our military will obey "THEIR" orders to achieve "THEIR" objectives? What are these new "objectives?" Who get's to be in charge of this "alternative" army?

[Paladin2]

"Janetalia"

Very Funny, but also very, very sick (and cannot be un-thought now)