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Obama DHS Purchases 2,700 Light-Armored Tanks to Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullet Stockpile
Jim Hoft on gatewaypundit.com ^ | 3/3/13

Posted on 03/04/2013 6:00:13 AM PST by Liz

This is getting a little creepy. According to one estimate, since last year the Department of Homeland Security has stockpiled more than 1.6 billion bullets, mainly .40 caliber and 9mm. DHS also purchased 2,700 Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles (MRAP). (30-35,0000 drones are on order--being built in Starkville, Miss.)

Modern Survival Blog reported: The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.

Although I’ve seen and read several online blurbs about this vehicle of late, I decided to dig slightly deeper and discover more about the vehicle itself.

The new DHS sanctioned ‘Street Sweeper’ (my own slang due to the gun ports) is built by Navistar Defense (NavistarDefense.com), a division within the Navistar organization. Under the Navistar umbrella are several other companies including International Trucks, IC Bus (they make school buses), Monaco RV (recreational vehicles), WorkHorse (they make chassis), MaxxForce (diesel engines), and Navistar Financial (the money arm of the company).

DHS even released a video on their newly purchased MRAPs. LINK AT WEB SITE ---Via Pat Dollard:

The MRAP featured in the video was in Albuquerque, New Mexico for Law Enforcement Day which was held at a local area Target Store. This MRAP is stationed in El Paso, Texas at The Homeland Security Investigations Office. MRAP is a Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicle.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/obama-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks-to-go-with-their-1-6-billion-bullet-stockpile/


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammunition; banglist; cw2; dhs; drones; dsj; guncontrol; m1117; mrap; secondamendment; shtf; styg; tanks; tyranny
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To: GeronL
no... and prolly won't
121 posted on 03/04/2013 10:04:55 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
well, they aren't the sharpest crayon in the box...
122 posted on 03/04/2013 10:07:36 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Travis McGee
looks like a souped up V-150
123 posted on 03/04/2013 10:21:26 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode; archy

“Looks like a souped up V-150”

I think it does have that bloodline, back to the Cadillac Gage products.


124 posted on 03/04/2013 10:24:54 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GladesGuru; Travis McGee; Arrowhead1952; HiJinx; SandRat
Is there an armor warfare expert on this thread?

Having been around Armor and Cavalry for a portion of my career, I can help a little. I'll take on your questions one at a time...

Can a vehicle like these MRAP’s survive in an urban area without supporting infantry?

The answer is : briefly. The routine is, the vehicles would punch into the target area (say a city block or mall), the troops would dismount and form a perimeter, the task gets done, then they remount, pop smoke and head back out.

The transit into and out of the area is the scary part, where the troops are tucked inside the vehicles for the ride (as they say in the Cavalry, "Death Before Dismount"). The vehicles, of course, have gunners up and scanning for threats, but the passengers are hunkered down. The MRAP's allow for gun ports for the passengers to return fire; but moving at convoy speeds, with buildings whizzing by, and only a narrow port to shoot from, odds are all you're doing is "spray and pray".

I suspect a gasoline bomb would render such a vehicle unusable in short order, but I am no expert.

When tossed properly, such as the air intakes for the engine or crew, or at the crew hatches forcing them to button up, an incendiary IED can be effective in a short engagement. To disable the vehicle for longer would take a bit more; blinding the driver's vision is an effective move.

125 posted on 03/04/2013 10:26:31 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Bshaw

They have to get out of them at some point and go home...

How would they fair with a dozer or other piece of heavy equipment pushing on them? I wonder...


126 posted on 03/04/2013 10:31:37 AM PST by sarge83
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To: Old Sarge
blinding the driver's vision is an effective move.

Very difficult in an MRAP since they have full windshields rather than periscopes. I'm sure the tires burn marvelously, though.

127 posted on 03/04/2013 10:42:28 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: MrB

Thermite will.


128 posted on 03/04/2013 10:59:39 AM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: All

They look like they could be classified as MIL level _armoured_cars_. I do not know if they all this level, some may be more or less MIL.

However, 2,700 armoured cars would be enough to arm 10 Army divisions, making them light mechanized or armoured infantry equivelent.

How many US Army divisions are there now days?


129 posted on 03/04/2013 11:01:46 AM PST by veracious
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To: Future Snake Eater
Very difficult in an MRAP since they have full windshields rather than periscopes.

Bucket of tar from an overpass...

130 posted on 03/04/2013 11:12:23 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Liz

Remember when little barry bastard boy said he wanted a domestic army as well equiped as the US MIlitary? ... And still the sheeple worship him.


131 posted on 03/04/2013 11:15:00 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
paintball guns and or paint balloons make it damn hard to see through even/specially when smeared with wipers
132 posted on 03/04/2013 11:15:58 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: saleman

The ammo orders in particular are clear evidence that the federal oligarchs and their bosses KNOW the collapse is coming, the collapse they have planned for America. The orders of ammo, etc are proof they know resupply will be impossible once they collapse the economy and factories close down in the midst of chaos, nurder, and starvation. Got to get stocked up for what will be needed to protect the island fortresses in which the oligarchs will hold up until a suffient slaughter peters out.


133 posted on 03/04/2013 11:18:55 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Liz

Have they put out an FRP for sarin gas yet ?


134 posted on 03/04/2013 11:25:30 AM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue

Not necessary. We still have lots of VX.


135 posted on 03/04/2013 11:31:09 AM PST by Trod Upon (The Second Amendment acknowledges our inherent right to revolt if tyrannized. It ain't about hunting)
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To: ThunderSleeps
The 1.6 billion were all hollow points?

Can you verify that, please?

Thanks!

Oh....and do you know how many agencies does DHS buy for...and how many gun carrying agents do these agencies have?

I've heard that DHS consolidated 22 agencies..but I've never heard the number of gun qualifiers they have.

TIA

136 posted on 03/04/2013 11:37:27 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: MachIV

You can buy a 50 cal rifle.........in most states.


137 posted on 03/04/2013 11:40:33 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: TigersEye
Thermite will.

Ain't hard to make either, just remembering a little chemistry :)

138 posted on 03/04/2013 11:45:23 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Old Sarge
Bucket of tar from an overpass...

Paint. Adhesives. Expanding foam. Numerous other opaque sticky liquid products. Many of which are highly flammable as well.

139 posted on 03/04/2013 11:48:46 AM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: The Cajun
I just did a search of 'thermite' on Youtube. Dozens of very useful videos. :-)

You don't need to be a chemist or handy in the shop to make it either.
Baking box cakes takes more talent.

140 posted on 03/04/2013 11:52:52 AM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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