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Joe Paterno Really Didn't Know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSW6aG9hWok ^

Posted on 02/13/2013 9:59:29 AM PST by privatedrive

This excerpt from the Clemente Report is very disturbing. For anyone who refuses to believe that Joe didn't know - I think this story will change their minds. Would anyone blame this Mom, like they blame Joe? Would she be fired? Would she be cast as a horrible, evil person? Should all of her life's good work be erased because of this episode? Was she demonized like Joe has been? And this molestation happened literally right in front of her eyes.

Please watch the video, read the Clemente report, THEN please post your comments and let us know what you think.

Excerpt from Clemente Report:

"One of the many potential victims whom I interviewed during the investigation had a very interesting story to tell. First, I spoke with the boy’s mother. She assured me that she had already asked her approximately 6-year-old son whether Taus had molested him. He said no, so she believed there was no reason for me to talk to her son. I told her I would just like to ask a few questions and it would not take long. She reluctantly agreed. I interviewed the boy while he sat beside his mother and asked the boy a number of questions before I inquired whether Taus played any games with him. He answered that yes, they played the tickle game. I asked how the game was played. At that point, I recall the boy turning to his mother and saying, “You remember Mom, when I was sitting on his lap last time he was here talking to you. He had his hand up my shorts tickling my privates. He tickles me and I have to try not to laugh.” I looked at the mother and all the color had drained from her face. She could not believe that Taus had molested her son right in front of her very eyes and she had no idea that it had happened. She trusted Taus so much based on his profession, his reputation, and her repeated positive interactions with him that she never even questioned the fact that he liked to have her son sit on his lap."

ALL OF YOU PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY ESPN TALKING HEADS, NEED TO SHOW SOME REAL COURAGE AND ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG. IT COULD HAVE JUST AS EASILY BEEN YOU INSTEAD OF JOE. OR THAT POOR MOM. CMON PEOPLE - HAVE SOME MORAL COURAGE AND ADMIT YOUR MISTAKE, AND HELP THESE GOOD PEOPLE RESTORE THE LEGACY OF ONE OF THE TRULY GREAT MEN IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: apologists; childabuse; homosexualagenda; paterno; pedophilia; pennstate; sandusky; sycophants
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To: FlJoePa
Some of the idiocy here is alarming.

Especially the idiocy posted by pedophile apologists.

101 posted on 02/13/2013 1:16:17 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: ExCTCitizen

“What I heard from my cousin (who is a PSU student) is that Joe went to the president of PSU. Now, what Joe is guilty of is trusting the PSU administration!”

He knew in 2001. That is fact, not speculation.

All Joe has to do, being Joe Paterno, is call 911, then call a press conference. All done. JoePa then actually lives up to his brand image.

Instead, a decade of victims are directly attributable to Paterno not picking up the phone.

Irony, that the man’s name essentially means, “Father”. Chilling.


102 posted on 02/13/2013 1:21:42 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: FlJoePa; dead

Here’s the very simple answer, but I am sure you will never see the truth for the simple reason you either don’t wnat to know it, or you know it and don’t care.

Joe Paterno knew that Sandusky raped a boy in the shower. THe fact that he did not raise hell until Sandusky was 100% out of/off of the campus and removed from all contact with boys means he was complicit. No decent or sane human being could rest knowint that a man was raping boys in his vicinity, and just shrug it aside with the excuse “well, I told someone, I did my little part”.


103 posted on 02/13/2013 1:22:14 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
You just continue to create your own fantasy story. Nothing you say is based in fact, just conjecture.

Here's two espn guys that actually know something about it. Maybe you should listen:

Maisel/Van Natta podcast

104 posted on 02/13/2013 1:38:27 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa
Nothing you say is based in fact,

That is another lie.

105 posted on 02/13/2013 1:42:48 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: FlJoePa
Effin' stupid is what it is.

I'll say.

Sandusky was investigated for child sex abuse in 1998, which lead to his "retirement" in 1999.

Two years later, in 2001, Sandusky was still showering with boys, and raping them, in the Penn State showers.

At that point, anything Joe didn't know, Joe didn't want to know. You're telling me that Joe didn't know Sandusky was previously investigated for child sex abuse? His own freaking defensive coordinator who had to resign because of the investigation!? And Joe didn't know that this specially-designated 'emeritus' coach was still bringing young boys around the football facility.

Oh, I forgot, you told me on another thread that Paterno was a "Republican" so I'm supposed to look the other way...

106 posted on 02/13/2013 1:54:35 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: privatedrive

Phys.Ed. instructor at a State Pipsqueak College as a hero? Gag me with a spoon, Rihanna! And the Fan Club calls us “stupid”! Maybe they can replace the instructor’s statue with a statue of Justin Bieber? Just a suggestion. Same quality.


107 posted on 02/13/2013 2:07:02 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: dead

You keep piling it up. Even louis freeh concluded that there was no relation to 1998 and js’s retirement. js took advantage of a 35 (yrs) for 30 retirement deal offered by the state at the time. Joe Paterno told him he would never be the head coach because he didn’t devote enough time to football and too much to the second mile. He also told him he was welcome to stay on as DC as long as he wanted.

He took the retirement package and was given emeritus status - which included an office (in a completely different building) and access to the facilities by the B.O.T. and that was signed off on by current president Rodney Erickson.

As far as “raping” anyone in a shower, well it just never happened. Again, this is confirmed through testimony and even verdicts.

This is fun. Do another!


108 posted on 02/13/2013 2:07:46 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

For weeks and weeks or months I pinged out article after article after article and read tons and tons about this.

I’m done with this crap, and crap it is. It’s clear to anyone who isn’t brain/mind/heart dead that many, many people around Sanduksy knew what he was up to AND DIDN’T GIVE A DAMN because football and money and fame were more important that boys getting raped.


109 posted on 02/13/2013 2:09:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: FlJoePa
You're such a child-rapist-apologist clown.

You cite Louis Freeh when you like, then dismiss him as liar when he says things like "Joe Paterno was informed of the 1998 investigation" or "Joe Paterno's actions let children continue to be raped for over a decade."

As far as “raping” anyone in a shower, well it just never happened.

You are just a sick person.

110 posted on 02/13/2013 2:13:41 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: little jeremiah

Sucks when the facts don’t line up with your thinking or that of basement sports bloggers or shock sports jocks, doesn’t it?

You don’t know 1/10th as much about this case as I do. I say that with all the confidence in the world.

I’d bet you a month’s pay that you never read the entire freeh report nor the King and Spalding Report. I’ll bet you never read ANY of the testimony from any of the preliminary hearings or even the trial.

You read jason whitlock and listen to colin cowherd. That’s YOUR idea of getting to the truth.


111 posted on 02/13/2013 2:18:37 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa
You don’t know 1/10th as much about this case as I do.

Your eyes are brown, aren't they?

112 posted on 02/13/2013 2:27:18 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: dead

More name calling and yet no facts. I’m a “sick person”. Dick Thornburgh, John Ziegler, Franco Harris, Jim Clemente, and a host of others are also “child-rapist-apologist clowns” because we see an injustice and dare point it out?

Whatever. You (and no one else on this thread) pointed out ONE error in anything I posted.

You just use your opinion to call people names. You don’t have a monopoly on concern for children. Jay Paterno and Jim Clemente have done more in the last 4 days to raise awareness on pedophiles than you could do in a lifetime.

Penn State - as a University has done more for kids (go to www.thon.org) than half the rest of the Universities in this country combined.

We want the truth. You aren’t going to stop MY quest for it. Not now, not ever.

Yet we’re all “sick people”


113 posted on 02/13/2013 2:27:57 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: pghoilman
This report is the only one that matters:

Sandusky Grand Jury Presentment

"I didn't push Mike ... because he was very upset," Paterno said. "I knew Mike was upset, and I knew some kind of inappropriate action was being taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster."


114 posted on 02/13/2013 2:36:50 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

Do you even know what a Grand Jury Presentment is? It’s a prosecutors Nirvana - with no rebuttal. What matters is the testimony. It doesn’t match.


115 posted on 02/13/2013 2:38:54 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: privatedrive

Football is 3.5 hours a week at a 60 minute game (a mystery no one understands except the advertisers), 8 (?) times a year for college football, some hours on the field training, and most working hours of the year spent in the office. Anybody who has spent any time in an office, any office, knows full well that certain things about everyone there are well known to everyone there, and such things, the ambience if you will, will never find their way into some shysters reports like the two discussed here, or into the courtroom testimonies. What these reports present, in other words, is not, cannot be a complete picture of a universe. I bet therefore that it was well known at that office that “Jerry likes boys”. Well known, and shrugged at.


116 posted on 02/13/2013 2:47:37 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: FlJoePa

Those are Paterno’s own words before a grand jury admitting that he knew what was going on. Accept it. He was complicit, and no amount of wishful thinking will change that.


117 posted on 02/13/2013 2:50:16 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Revolting cat!

Also consider that Sandusky, with his coaching reputation should have been able to get any head coaching gig he wanted....and yet you never heard about any colleges contacting him to be their head coach, why was that?


118 posted on 02/13/2013 2:50:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: FlJoePa
I’m a “sick person.”

Er, why do you call yourself FlJoePa?

Exactly how did that come about?

119 posted on 02/13/2013 2:50:17 PM PST by JohnG45
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To: FlJoePa

I don’t know who colin/jason etc are. Never read them. Just read dozens of articles with excerpts on FR.

I don’t need to read 1000 pages of legalese to know human nature, nor do I need to read 1000 pp of legalese to recognize lies when I see them, or enablers of pedophiles when I read their comments.


120 posted on 02/13/2013 2:56:55 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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