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To: BroJoeK

“It’s the difference between withdrawing money from a bank with your ATM card versus a Colt 45 Pistol.
In both cases, you get money, but in the latter case, you will then have the law to answer to, FRiend.”

LOL. No, my friend, it is like walking into a bank and asking for the money from your own account and having the bank stick a .45 in your face and telling you “no.”

“or from a serious material breach of contract such as oppression or “usurpation”.”

This is the part of your own answer you are not getting.

Also my friend, you should not let your children run your household.


306 posted on 03/03/2013 11:05:36 AM PST by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: Jay Redhawk

There never was a “serious material breach of contract such as oppression or “usurpation”” in the case of the insurrectionists.

This is the part of your own answer you are not getting.


308 posted on 03/03/2013 11:20:41 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Jay Redhawk
BroJoeK: "It’s the difference between withdrawing money from a bank with your ATM card versus a Colt 45 Pistol.
In both cases, you get money, but in the latter case, you will then have the law to answer to, FRiend"

Jay Redhawk: "LOL. No, my friend, it is like walking into a bank and asking for the money from your own account and having the bank stick a .45 in your face and telling you 'no.' "

You got the analogy all wrong, historically.
Leaning on this analogy a bit more: Deep-South slave-holding secessionists went to their local "bank", claimed it as their own, seized it by military force (i.e., Fort Sumter), incarcerated "bank" employees (i.e., in Texas), formally declared war on the "bank" corporation, and sent armies to assault as many other "bank" branches as they could reach.

Yes, after they were defeated, those same now-former slave-holders began concocting fairy tales for their children, to explain how those evil "bank" officials had invaded their country and destroyed their wonderful life-styles.

So propaganda is every bit as much about what you leave out of your story, as what you tell... ;-)

BroJoeK: "Our Founders considered their "compact" to be as "perpetual" and "perfect" as a good marriage, and only to be ended by "mutual consent" (i.e., approval of Congress), or from a serious material breach of contract such as oppression or 'usurpation'."

Jay Redhawk: "This is the part of your own answer you are not getting."

All allegations of Northern "oppression" or "usurpation" by today's Neo-Confederates are pure fantasy.
Neither word, "oppression" or "usurpation" appears in any secessionists' "Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union"

In 1860 it was all about defending slavery from potential future infringements.

Jay Redhawk: "Also my friend, you should not let your children run your household."

LOL, my children are all long-since grown and gone, and I am more-or-less retired.
How do you suppose I have time to play here?
And someday, if nature takes a natural course, I could well be dependent on them for care or decision making.
Then I'll be quite happy I treated them with love and due respect when they were in my care.

Think about it... ;-)

324 posted on 03/03/2013 5:04:53 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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