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To: Jacquerie
"So some Senators as puppet masters lorded over State Legislatures? Fascinating."

Exactly. And it was becoming so brazen by the turn of the 20th century that it spurred on the movement for popular elections. It was the right thing to do.

"Correct. They were designed to be removed from the people. It served our republic well."

Until such time as they became self-serving, of which became an epidemic by the middle part of the 19th century.

"Accountability? To whom? The people? That is for the House. Democratic tyranny, which describes our consolidated government quite well, is still tyranny."

If you consider the current method tyranny, I consider your notion to be the same. You're not returning to the Founding Fathers, you're simply eliminating accountability and entrusting it to government workers. These are the last people that deserve to have their powers enhanced. They should be scared of us, but I am scared of them.

"State appointed Rinos or even rat Senators would think twice about screwing state budgets with Utopian social justice dreams such as Medicaid and Obamacare."

That you sincerely believe that is what makes your notion so misguided. It's not going to happen.

"The history of our republic reflects the wisdom of state appointed senators and the idiocy of popularly elected senators."

The history of our republic reflects that legislatively-elected Senators failed to live up to the Founders' notions, instead leading to bossism and corruption, and it was why the 17th was precipitated.

29 posted on 02/08/2013 5:31:24 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No thanks. Enjoy your world, hopefully alone.


32 posted on 02/08/2013 5:38:40 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Jacquerie

The body of “the people” elect their state representatives and their state senators and their governors.

Then the body of “the people” felt their state representatives, state senators, and governors were corrupted;
and that, therefore, the U.S. Senate appointment process was corrupted.

But yet, somehow, “the people” thought that their wisdom in direct selection of their own U. S. Senators would be better
than their wisdom in selecting their state representatives, state senators, and governors.

If “the people”’s state representatives and their state senators and their governors were corrupt, it is likely due to a corrupt people.

Having “the people” directly elect their own U.S. Senators solved absolutely nothing; but it created a much bigger problem.


48 posted on 02/08/2013 6:23:46 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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