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To: FatMax; BillyBoy

Again, Max, it is not Billy & I who have been besieging this thread with personal attacks and the like over a disagreement. I’ve frankly been shocked by the behavior of pro-17th repealers, not only in this thread, but in others, who behave more like a mob out of “Les Miserables.” I don’t question the high-minded motives of those wanting a better government, it’s that the problem that those pushing for this fail to ponder what would actually result.

It’s like the academics. They have their theories that always work on paper, but when put into motion in reality, ends up something far different. I study the realities of what the state legislatures are, who populates them and controls them, the state of our political parties, the current culture and all those other ingredients that are left out by the repealers. The resulting mishmosh is a completely inedible substance.

Too many here are believing that repeal would immediately lead to some political nirvana, a modern day era of good feelings, some early 19th century vision. Again, unless you’re planning on changing the current culture, the folks who participate in elections, virtually the entire society and remove it to, say, exclusively enlightened and educated White male landowners, and absent a parasitic class of low and no information political participants, you’re not going to have the Senate of your fantasy.


108 posted on 02/09/2013 5:01:15 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Are you up to the task of setting forth your complete philosophy for popularly elected senators, or will you continue to take the easy route and troll for columns that defend the Article I of our Framers?

If you are up to it, which I doubt, I look forward to your vanity post.


109 posted on 02/09/2013 5:25:46 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Again, with the fallacies? Building a racist strawman to knock down isn’t helping your cause. And history is on history’s side, not yours or any one else’s; cherry-picking information and rewriting it to fit your preconceptions isn’t solving anything.

And maybe it is fantasyland to want a society with individual liberty and prosperity protected by limited, but effective, government. But folks probably said the same thing to the Founding Fathers, and you are now free to enjoy the fruits of their labor.


115 posted on 02/09/2013 5:45:10 PM PST by FatMax
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