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Women delivering newspapers in Torrance shot in manhunt for ex-cop
L.A. Times ^ | 02/07/2013 | Andrew Blankstein

Posted on 02/07/2013 11:46:30 PM PST by Drago

Two women who were shot by Los Angeles police in Torrance early Thursday during a massive manhunt for an ex-LAPD officer were delivering newspapers, sources said.

The women, shot in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue, were taken to area hospitals, Torrance police Lt. Devin Chase said. They were not identified. One was shot in the hand and the other in the back, according to Jesse Escochea, who captured video of the victims being treated. It was not immediately known what newspapers the women were delivering...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; christopherdorner; copbashersonfr; donutwatch; dorner; jbt; lapd; leftwingmurderer; misidentification; oops; partisanmediashills; police
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To: Yaelle
"Pretty sad. But cops are scared today. Going about my business in several LA county areas with different police forces, I saw many, many more cops today out and abut than ever before in one day."

Stay safe Yalle, hope this is over soon!

21 posted on 02/08/2013 12:52:39 AM PST by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: Yaelle
I hope none get shot tonight.

Really? I hope every one of the dumb bas****s that would shoot at a truck that "looks like" one they are hunting gets their a**es thrown in jail. That is the only justice Americans are likely to get in these cases where cops are so scared sh**less they can't check things out before shooting innocent bystanders.

Who I hope doesn't get shot tonight are any more people who have nothing what so ever to do with the crime these ignorant cops tried to gun innocents down for.

22 posted on 02/08/2013 1:04:37 AM PST by calex59
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To: TigersEye
And that's why its so hard to fight back against the "rationale" of the gun grabbers. Nothing they do or say makes any sense so its completely impossible for rational people to anticipate and form a defense; thus we are always caught off guard.

Just watch, the people that claim that only the military and police need guns will turn this bastard around to make a case for taking away our firearms. Even though the dude is a leftist Read cop-killer Chris Dorner’s anti-gun rant: Love for Obama, Clinton, Piers Morgan, Charlie Sheen

23 posted on 02/08/2013 1:09:23 AM PST by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: TigersEye

I don’t have much experience with firearms, but from reading what other FReepers have said through the years, the 5.56 round is certainly not high-powered.


24 posted on 02/08/2013 1:11:09 AM PST by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Drago

Women Shot By Police in Case of Mistaken Identity in Ex-LAPD Officer's Manhunt

VIDEO report at link. . .

The manhunt for murder suspect Christopher Dorner led to two separate shootings involving two newspaper deliverywomen and a driver Thursday morning. Police opened fire when they noticed trucks matching the description of Dorner'sapproached the home of an LAPD officer who's named in the suspect's manifesto. Conan Nolan reports from Torrance for the NBC4 News at 5 p.m. on Feb. 7, 2013.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/2-Shot-in-Case-of-Mistaken-ID-in-Ex-Officers-Manhunt-190238221.html

25 posted on 02/08/2013 1:19:44 AM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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They were probably ugly.


26 posted on 02/08/2013 1:29:23 AM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Drago

I’m surprised the LAPD hasn’t charged the victims. (Or maybe they would have if there wasn’t video.)


27 posted on 02/08/2013 1:41:42 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: FReepers
KTLA 5 News - Los Angeles

Two Women Shot In Vehicle Mistaken For Dorner's

They are mother and daughter. . . 71 year old Emma Hernandez was shot in the back. . . and her daughter was injured by the shattered glass. . .

Witness says 30 to 40 or more guns shots. . . Both survived. . . they have hired an attorney. . .

Attorney: "There was no warning, there was no orders or no commands, just gunshots".

Police spokesman: :Tragically, we believe this was a case of mistaken identity by the officers".

http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/two-women-shot-in-vehicle-mistaken-for-dorners-chip-yost-reports/#axzz2KIWILb7f

28 posted on 02/08/2013 1:48:57 AM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: P-Marlowe
Yes, it looks like 40 or more bullet holes in the rear hatch and rear window of the women's pickup truck. The cops were waiting and watching a house on this street, but I wonder why it's the back of the truck that was shot up?
29 posted on 02/08/2013 2:13:40 AM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: Drago

And more and more I see why good people no longer trust law enforcement...and fools still do.


30 posted on 02/08/2013 2:21:59 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: y'all
CBS 2 - Los Angeles

Video of shooting victim at link. . .

... In a news conference, Police Chief Charlie Beck said the officers thought the women’s royal blue Toyota Tacoma matched the description of Dorner’s dark-colored Nissan pickup truck ... Jonas finds that hard to believe.

[The women's attorney Glen Jonas is quoted]

“The vehicle is a different color. The license plate doesn’t match. There’s nothing there for you to start shooting people. And even if they had the person in question… Mr. Dorner…you still have to give them an opportunity to get out. You can’t just start administering street justice,” said Jonas.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/02/07/2-innocent-women-shot-during-manhunt-for-ex-cop-chris-dorner-had-no-warning/

31 posted on 02/08/2013 2:24:13 AM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: Drago

Highly untrained..alot of these guys (cops) are scary.


32 posted on 02/08/2013 2:32:46 AM PST by midway1 (Inside every liberal is an American trying to get out)
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To: deks

I said it before and I will say it again. Whenever people say only trained professionals should be armed because armed civilians will likely hurt themselves or innocent bystanders, I will remind them of this and other incidents like this one (NYC - Street Shootout where most bullets hit people other than the perp).


33 posted on 02/08/2013 2:40:00 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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“KCAL9’s Jeff Nguyen said she was listed in good condition.”

And this link says that Hernandez, the 71-year old woman delivering newspapers, was in stable condition late Thursday.


The officers riddled the women’s blue pickup with bullets in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue. Carranza was also hit, according to attorney Glen T. Jonas, and received stitches to a finger.

“The problem with the situation is it looked like the police had the goal of administering street justice and in so doing, didn’t take the time to notice that these two older, small Latina women don’t look like a large black man,” Jonas said.

Dorner is black, 6 feet tall and weighs 270 pounds.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/manhunt-newspaper-carrier-icu-shot-by-police.html


34 posted on 02/08/2013 2:54:26 AM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: Drago

35 posted on 02/08/2013 3:18:07 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: BCW

Looks like another Beer Summit is in order! Cops acting stupidly and all....


36 posted on 02/08/2013 3:40:44 AM PST by Big Giant Head
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To: Drago

It is ok for cops to have guns and carry anywhere off duty because they are “trained” ...unlike me who goes to the range weekly...or did until homeland security bought all my bullets!


37 posted on 02/08/2013 3:45:42 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: BCW

Bravo. The tatted-up Fife is most impressive. What’s really funny is what you wrote all over him. LOL.


38 posted on 02/08/2013 3:53:20 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Drago
Because a blue Toyota Tundra looks JUST LIKE the the gray Nissan Titan the perp was known to be in. This is the deliver ladies' vehicle the cops shot up:

They also shot up a black (not gray) Honda Ridgeline, which is a pretty distinctive looking mini-pickup that looks nothing like a Nissan Titan.

So these donut-munchers just stink all-around on vehicle recognition, which you would think should be a pretty basic job requirements.

39 posted on 02/08/2013 3:55:00 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: deks
"“The problem with the situation is it looked like the police had the goal of administering street justice and in so doing, didn’t take the time to notice that these two older, small Latina women don’t look like a large black man,” Jonas said."

Now the police can worry about some street justice from the Hispanic community, as well as whatever Dorner is doing.

40 posted on 02/08/2013 3:56:54 AM PST by Truth29
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