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US gay marriage foes suffer from fundraising shortfall
Reuters ^ | January 30, 2013 | Dan Levine & Peter Henderson

Posted on 02/03/2013 8:13:40 AM PST by fractionated

Foes of same-sex marriage are laboring to pay the tab for an epic legal case now before the U.S. Supreme Court, as the movement suffers from fundraising shortfalls that could sap its strength in future battles.

ProtectMarriage dot com, the advocacy group defending a California gay marriage ban now under review by the high court, showed a $2 million deficit in its legal fund at the end of 2011 - the third year in a row that expenses exceeded donations, federal tax records show....

"Unless the pace of donations starts to pick up right away, we could soon be forced over a financial cliff," ProtectMarriage dot com said in an email to donors earlier this month....

The fund-raising fall-off is a result of donor fatigue, the dramatic rise in public support for gay marriage and the softening of some major gay marriage opponents, including the Mormon Church, people involved with the campaigns say. Both individuals and institutions opposed to gay marriage say many are fearful of being associated with the cause....

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was one of the most visible Prop 8 supporters.... But the image-conscious Mormon church came under fierce attack from gay rights supporters nationwide. Now, Mormon leaders speak about the need to respect all individuals and established a website, www.mormonsandgays.org, to help gays stay in the church.

Mormon fundraising to oppose gay marriage has plummeted. In Washington state, for example, gay marriage opponents netted just four donations from Utah, for $197.50....

The U.S. public now favors gay marriage 48-43 percent, according to Pew. Fred Sainz, a spokesman for gay advocacy group Human Rights Campaign, says there is "zero doubt" that the fundraising problems reflect a lack of momentum for gay marriage foes.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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1 posted on 02/03/2013 8:13:52 AM PST by fractionated
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To: fractionated

Where in the hell are our churches and church people???

(Sorry, but it’s just plain unavoidable.)


2 posted on 02/03/2013 8:25:34 AM PST by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: fractionated

Conservative Christians need to stsrt opening their pocket books if they want their children and grandchildren to have a moral society to live in.


3 posted on 02/03/2013 8:46:12 AM PST by Yellowstone Joe
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To: fractionated

The taxpaying public is being made to pay for the homosexual agenda in outright defiance of the Defense of Marriage Act (the government never did much to defend traditional marriage).

With unelected liberals working to make same sex marriage the law of the land from within the establishment, it takes outside interests to “hold the line” who are then savaged in the pink journolist pravda press.

The government is not impartial on the issue of gay marriage and neither is the media. Neither are some of the judges (which is why activists go shopping for judges who’ll give them the “landmark” rulings they want to overturn laws).


4 posted on 02/03/2013 9:28:42 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: fractionated

The Romney Republicans didn’t lift a finger in the last election cycle to stop the always-intensifying drive of the homosexualists.

Sending money to Republican satellite organizations ain’t working.

So, give your money directly to thoroughly-vetted, truly-conservative candidates who will FIGHT, so that 100% of the funds go to what you intend them for.

Or, use it to turn votes out for such candidates yourself.


5 posted on 02/03/2013 9:37:01 AM PST by EternalVigilance (We still hold these truths to be self-evident.)
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To: fractionated

President Romney would have repealed DOMA and surrendered to SSM.


6 posted on 02/03/2013 10:42:12 AM PST by montag813
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To: fractionated

Gay marriage opponents need to show that it’s not a lost cause. The vast majority of Americans told pollsters they opposed abortion on demand immediately after Roe vs. Wade, but in 40 years the pro-life movement hasn’t laid a finger on abortion.

Gay marriage already has unanimous support among Democrats and in every establishment (business, health care. media, education, the arts) you can name, as well as plurality polling. The Supreme Court will strike down Proposition 8 and most of DOMA within the next few months, making gay marriage legal and federally recognized in the states where probably 90% of gays in this country live. The current Supreme Court docket probably doesn’t give a basis to cover the other 10% with legalization but it’s only a matter of time.

What is the legal or political strategy to overcome this, and what reason is there to believe it might work?


7 posted on 02/03/2013 11:18:30 AM PST by only1percent
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To: polymuser

Our entire foundation has been attacked. Anyone who speaks up for truth and reason is savagely labeled a bigoted.

The left have got big company’s like google bankrolling the Gay agenda. We may have to finally point out to people that Marriage as they define it is indeed totally meaningless.

Homosexuality is a self-distrcutive disease, unforutnatly the far left has won the cutre war with key positions in the media, and our schools that now also attack anyone who questions the correctness of the Gay lifestyal.

A lie is what our children have been indictorated to believe and punished in school should they ever think to reject. This has been going on sense the 1990’s.

All we can do now is point out the undeniable backs that Gay partnerships can’t produce children and thus the fruit that makes the union meaningful to the rest of civilization.

If we are going to fight this we are going to have to go back to the basics and fight to get them to recognize this foundation. That of course will require that we also fight the other vice in our civilization, the idea that We do things simply because they “feel good”.

Because it is that vice that underpins the whole justification for the left’s definition of marriage. Not children(family), but “good feelings”. It is this new definition which has destroyed marriage as the institution it was for thousands of years. Just as it is this definition which logically permits a limitless number of functionally meaningless and often short lived unions.


8 posted on 02/03/2013 11:22:18 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: fractionated; All
Seemingly as a consequence of patriots not understanding the Founding States' division of federal and state government powers, evidenced by the Constitution's Section 8 of Article I, Article V and the 10th Amendment, patriots don't seem to be aware of the following about state powers versus federal government powers to regulate marriage.

Given that the states have never delegated to Congress via the Constitution the specific power to regulate marriage, evidenced by the Constitution's silence about marriage, the Founders made the 10th Amendment to clarify that government power to regulate things like marriage is automatically reserved to each individual state, not to the federal government.

In fact, not only is gay marriage not an express, constitutionally protected right which gives a state's voters the power to decide against gay marriage, but just as justices had clarified that constitutionally unaddressed euthanasia issues are up to the states to decide in the Terri Schiavo case, Constitution-respecting justices should clarify that marriage is likewise a state power issue.

Also note that justices have already decided against marriages that are not based on the traditional one man, one woman in Reynolds v. United States on the basis of common law, I believe. So there is case precedent supporting traditional marriage, although not in the context of 10th Amendment protected state powers.

The problem is that pro-gay marriage activist justices might take the opportunity to put on their "magic glasses" to find the so-called right to gay marriage in the 9th Amendment, just as they wrongly hid behind 9A to legislate abortion from the bench, wrongly usurping state legislative powers to address such issues imo.

So once again, widespread patirot ignorance of the Constituton's division of federal and state government powers is seemingly helping to fuel unnecessary confusion about the constitutionality of an issue, this time the constitutonality of gay marriage. Pro-traditional marriage patriots who are too lazy to read the Constitution arguably deserve to get screwed by activist justices over the gay marriage issue.

9 posted on 02/03/2013 11:50:34 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Yellowstone Joe

“Conservative Christians need to start opening their pocket books if they want their children and grandchildren to have a moral society to live in.”

I think its too late for that. The problem is the modern concept of marriage is like the modern concept of everything else. Its propose is to make people feel good not form perment family bonds for the sake of producing children.

This is what I call the “Disney concept of marriage” The concept which has been sold to us for a 100+ years sense we were little as a theme in countless stories. (I’m sure you have seen many of them)

Unfortunately this relatively new(in historical context) concept of marriage carry’s with it a fatal flaw. By placing the focus of marriage on the feelings rather than the commitment & family people have created an union that is as unstable as those same feelings. (That is not a marriage in the historical & practical context, its a partnership.)

Indeed as current divorce rates prove the union based upon such a foundation(which are now the overwhelming norm) are so unstable they are largely incapable of preforming their practical propose.

Indeed folk of my generation now in ever greater numbers question the merits of even bothering to enter into these unions they title “marriage” in the first place. “Marriage” rates are as a result going down.

This is not the symptom of a morally collapse society but a direct and logical result of a redefined institution, slowly losing the cultural clothing that no longer fit it in its new definition.

So you see the problem with marriage extends far beyond the question of “Gay marriage” or even its logical parallel inter-species marriage. What they now call “marriage” is not marriage even among folks reproductivly compatible sexes.

The real concept of marriage doesn’t exist for most people anymore.

You know this in your heart from what you have witness over the last 50 years in the deterioration of marriage. What you have perhaps failed to recognize is the underlining nature of the problem being the original redefinition & refocus of the institution.

If we don’t fix that definition, the abomination of “homosexual marriage” will just be a meaningless addition to an already meaningless institution.

If you ask me we would have an easyer time simply reintroducing the original institution, then reversing the 100+ years of redefinition they did to the existing one.


10 posted on 02/03/2013 11:58:39 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: Yellowstone Joe

“Conservative Christians need to start opening their pocket books if they want their children and grandchildren to have a moral society to live in.”

I think its too late for that. The problem is the modern concept of marriage is like the modern concept of everything else. Its propose is to make people feel good not form perment family bonds for the sake of producing children.

This is what I call the “Disney concept of marriage” The concept which has been sold to us for a 100+ years sense we were little as a theme in countless stories. (I’m sure you have seen many of them)

Unfortunately this relatively new(in historical context) concept of marriage carry’s with it a fatal flaw. By placing the focus of marriage on the feelings rather than the commitment & family people have created an union that is as unstable as those same feelings. (That is not a marriage in the historical & practical context, its a partnership.)

Indeed as current divorce rates prove the union based upon such a foundation(which are now the overwhelming norm) are so unstable they are largely incapable of preforming their practical propose.

Indeed folk of my generation now in ever greater numbers question the merits of even bothering to enter into these unions they title “marriage” in the first place. “Marriage” rates are as a result going down.

Instead we have rediscovered the original problem of single parent households and broken family with no solution in sight. As the redefined marriage offers no real solution.

This is not a symptom of a morally collapse society but a direct and logical result of a redefined institution, slowly losing the cultural clothing that no longer fit it in its new definition.

So you see the problem with marriage extends far beyond the question of “Gay marriage” or even its logical parallel “inter-species marriage”. What they now call “marriage” is not marriage even among folks reproductively compatible sexes.

The real concept of marriage doesn’t exist for most people anymore. I think you knew this in your heart from what you have witness over the last 50 years in the deterioration of marriage and most particularly family. What you have perhaps failed to recognize is the underlining cause, as gone unnoticed was the new understanding and thus definition of “marriage” being sold to each new generation.

If we don’t fix that definition, the abomination of “homosexual marriage” will just be just anther meaningless addition to an already meaningless institution.

If you ask me we would have an easyer time simply reintroducing the original institution(under a new name perhaps), then reversing the 100+ years of redefinition they did to the old name.


11 posted on 02/03/2013 12:13:19 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: fractionated
Patrick Henry College is filing an amicus brief against gay marriage in the Supreme Court battles!

You CAN give a tax deductible gift to this organization AND be helping the fight against forced celebration of sodomy!

WWW.PHC.EDU is the web site.

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12 posted on 02/03/2013 1:21:12 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: fractionated
A more political organization is "National Organization for Marriage"! You can donate to them, too!

Donations are not tax deductible, but this is a group that is determined to stop the forced celebration of sodomy: nationformarriage.org is their web site.

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13 posted on 02/03/2013 1:27:00 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: fractionated

The fascist butt boys threatened and harassed doners.


14 posted on 02/03/2013 6:37:29 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: polymuser

They are busy paying off their scam church property mortages. : (


15 posted on 02/03/2013 6:38:48 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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