Posted on 02/01/2013 7:34:08 AM PST by lost in the snow
The Boy Scouts of America is about to be torn apart.
In one respect, it doesn’t matter what BSA’s board members decide when they meet next week – to change their long-standing policy excluding avowed homosexuals, or not to change their policy. Either way, the Boy Scouts of America will not emerge unscathed. It will be bloodied. It will be hurt. The only question is: When the dust settles, which side will the 100-year-old organization be on? Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/the-boy-scouts-braveheart-moment/#ROuvYRYudoUJSlV2.99
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If you mean "Boy Scouts of America" and the specific logo, then it's the Boy Scouts of America in Irving, Texas.
However, Scouting is a worldwide movement that predates the BSA. The BSA is not the only Scouting organization in the U.S. More about that anon.
In most European and many South American countries, there are multiple Scouting organizations, often split by religion or political differences (European countries may have separate Catholic, Protestant, Socialist, Labor Union, and other groups; Germany has more than 100). They are represented at the World Organization of the Scout Movement by one umbrella organization, or simply exist on their own. When I say they are separate groups, they are truly separate groups - not like we have in the U.S.
There is also the World Federation of Independent Scouts.
In the U.S., virtually all Scouts belong to the BSA, which is a member of WOSM. However, we have some Scouts who are part of the Baden-Powell Service Association (which is already co-ed and 'inclusive') and some who are back-to-what-we-did-in-1908 Baden-Powell Scouts' Association (which is part of WFIS - and I don't know where they stand on homosexual leaders).
Anyone can start a Scouting group - just grab Lord Baden-Powell's 1908 Scouting for Boys and do it. Last time I took a formal count (2007), Scouting existed in every country in the world except five.
Outside of the U.S., Scouting is co-ed almost everywhere except Muslim nations.
I thought it was something like that. Don't some countries have boys and girls doing the same program, but in separate units? I wish we had that here, for the younger children or for teenagers who want to be in a single-sex unit.
Cuba, North Korea, People's Republic of China, Laos, Myanmar (Burma), and Andorra.
I wonder what’s up with Andorra.
Yes, but I can't name one off the top of my head. Some of those become co-ed as they grow older.
Andorra? A principality with a population of less than 90,000. Maybe the Bishop of Urgell and the President of France (co-monarchs of Andorra) don’t believe in Scouting.
OK... at this point I am beyond mad.
I never heard of the Baden-Powell Service Association. I just googled it. It is basically a BSA like program, similar to the Baden Powell ideals, but allows ANYONE to join, including homosexuals. People who have been reading about the current BSA situation have said, why don’t the homosexuals start there own group- well the already have and have been in operation since 2006.
This current push is for nothing more than to destroy the BSA.
The BSA National office is completely dependent upon corporate charity to maintain ...
1. its programs at the 4 national high adventure bases in MN, NM, FL, and WV.
2. their salaries and benefits
3. keep producing the printed manuals/books which the units use.
Isn't the current CEO the head of the British-based Ernst & Winney (or something spelled like that)?
No. 2 different people at the top of BSA ...
1. Wayne Brock, the chief scout executive (the top BSA professional, who took over on 9/1/2012) and
2. Wayne Perry is the current national (volunteer) president chairman of the BSA national (volunteer) board of directors. He is the owner of the Seattle Mariners. He sold his telecomm business to AT&T a few years ago.
3. James Turley, the CEO of E&W is just a member-at-large on the BSA national board of directors.
How does a Brit libturd (aka. think Piers Morgan) get to sit on the Board of Boy Scout of America and even more ridiculous, is the Chairman of the Board of the BSA?
I have not read anything to indicate that Piers Morgan is a BSA national (volunteer) executive board member.
These non-profit organizations somehow seem to love to pick high-profile RAT bastard liberals & socialists to sit on their Board of Directors, and then sit there with a perplexed look on their faces when the liberal board members start to push their pro-homo / pro-lesbian / pro-Islam / anti-American / anti-Christianity ideologies onto the organizations.
There has been a HUGE sea change in corporate America. The gay mafia, led by the Human Rights Campaign, has successfully "penetrated" the board rooms all across our once fair land.
1. Don't despair. We can fight back.
2. Work through you local council executive board. They are volunteers. The council pros are compromised because their allegiance is to BSA national.
3. Get all of your volunteer Scouter buddies together and press you case with your local council (volunteer) president. He is the chairman of the council executive board of directors. Demand the resignations of Brock, Stephenson, and Turley.
4. Make it plain that you will stop your FoS (Friends of Scouting) donations and participating in the Trails End Popcorn sales. These fundraisers impact the local councils most - not national. But national will hear about it.
5. Know who your enemy is in your local district - the churches which charter scout units AND support homosexual inclusion. Those churches are (1) TEC, (2) ELCA, (3) PCUSA, (4) UCC, (5) Unitarian/Universalist, (6) Moravian, and (7) DoC-The Christian Church. The UMC is a special case - they are in the midst of an internal struggle on the issue of homosexuality. Just look out for those UMC churches which espouse "social justice" and have a female pastor.
6. Transfer your scouts out of the units in these churches to other units.
Not just ‘since 2006’. The Scouting For All movement has been around since about 1999. That’s fourteen years that a group could have been creating a competing ‘inclusive’ (deviant sexuality and athiest) group rather than trying to take over the BSA.
11/28/1999 – The British homosexual rights group, Stonewall, celebrated its 10th anniversary extravaganza at the Albert Hall in London. Pop singer Elton John infuriated British scouting leaders when he appeared on stage with 6 strip-teasing teenagers attired in Cub Scout uniforms. The boys grabbed their crotches and bared themselves down to their skimpy shorts to the tune “It’s a Sin” by the Pet Shop Boys.
1/10/1963 – U.S. Representative Albert S. Herlong Jr. of Florida read into the Congressional Record the list of 45 communist goals (Appendix, pp. A34-A35) from Cleon Skousen’s 1958 book, The Naked Communist. Goal #26 - Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
Many, many long-time Scouting volunteers agree with this POV. Of course, there will be a transition period that will be rough. But it can be done. The American Heritage Girls broke from the Girl Scouts USA a few years ago. We can too, if it comes to that.
But first, let's try to torpedo the BSA National Executive Board and the chief scout executive.
Or organizational elements can secede and coalesce around new but similar brands like ‘The United BSA’ or such.
The 1926 Congressional Charter granted to BSA preserved the exclusive right of BSA to use the term "scouting." This has been a very active thread of conversation for years on scouting forums. I can't say much beyond that. To me, the real problem would be access to all of the printed books and manuals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_charter
A Congressional charter is a law passed by the United States Congress that states the mission, authority and activities of a group. Congress issued federal charters from 1791 until 1992 under Title 36 of the United States Code.
The relationship between Congress and the organization is largely a symbolic honorific giving the organization the aura of being "officially" sanctioned by the U.S. government. However, Congress does not oversee or supervise organizations with the charter (other than receiving a yearly financial statement). Amid dissatisfaction with the system, the subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee decided not to consider applications for further charters in 1992, though several were still granted thereafter.
… These mostly honorific charters tend "to provide an 'official' imprimatur to their activities, and to that extent it may provide them prestige and indirect financial benefit." Groups that fall into this group are usually veterans’ groups, fraternal groups or youth groups like the USO, the Girl Scouts of the USA or the Boy Scouts of America (charter approved on June 15, 1916) Congress has chartered about 100 fraternal or patriotic groups.
If memory serves me correctly, it provides BSA with the exclusive rights to use the term "scouting".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_charter
A Congressional charter is a law passed by the United States Congress that states the mission, authority and activities of a group. Congress issued federal charters from 1791 until 1992 under Title 36 of the United States Code.
The relationship between Congress and the organization is largely a symbolic honorific giving the organization the aura of being "officially" sanctioned by the U.S. government. However, Congress does not oversee or supervise organizations with the charter (other than receiving a yearly financial statement). Amid dissatisfaction with the system, the subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee decided not to consider applications for further charters in 1992, though several were still granted thereafter.
… These mostly honorific charters tend "to provide an 'official' imprimatur to their activities, and to that extent it may provide them prestige and indirect financial benefit." Groups that fall into this group are usually veterans’ groups, fraternal groups or youth groups like the USO, the Girl Scouts of the USA or the Boy Scouts of America (charter approved on June 15, 1916) Congress has chartered about 100 fraternal or patriotic groups.
If memory serves me correctly, it provides BSA with the exclusive rights to use the term "scouting".
I was obviously not clear in my rhetorical question as to how a British libturd (aka think Piers Morgan) could sit on the board of BSA. It was meant to indicate how could a British liberal, like James Turley, the CEO of E&W, be on the BOD of BSA. I did not mean to indicate that Piers Morgan was on the BOD of BSA. Poorly phrased comment on my parte. But I may be mistaken here as well, if Turley is not a British citizen, but American. Sorry for the confusion...
And last of all, your statement that .....
There has been a HUGE sea change in corporate America. The gay mafia, led by the Human Rights Campaign, has successfully "penetrated" the board rooms all across our once fair land".
.... is absolutely 100% correct. I work for a very large U.S. & international company who is currently gushing over being in the top 3 of "diversity" companies in the U.S. Makes me wanna puke! Every board member & corporate officer are dyed in the wool, pro-gay, pro-Islamic, pro-anything minority / hate-Christianity / hate America bigots. What a tragedy!
I did not realize that. Thanks.
It would be interesting to see that tested, given that 'Scouting' existed in many countries before the U.S. and that Scout Troops #1 from Barre, VT, Bala Cynwyd, PA, and Pawhuska, OK, pre-date the founding of the BSA.
Yes, there is a history of homosexual molestation within BSA. But BSA has worked hard to implement safeguards and training over the last 20 years to reduce the risk. You are right about parents abdicating responsibilites. Scouting units always need new parents, especially men/fathers, to help with the unit program.
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