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Kroger Gun Stunt Sparks 2nd Amendment Debate
NBC28 ^ | 1/28/2013 | Amy Vu

Posted on 01/29/2013 11:46:30 AM PST by 1912comeback

Charlottesville police say the man who showed up at a Kroger grocery store with a loaded gun wanted to make a point. On Sunday, an unidentified 22-year-old man carried a loaded AR-15 into the Kroger store on Emmet Street and Hydraulic Road, sparking not only a scare for customers and employees but also a 2nd Amendment debate.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; nra; secondamendment
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To: Marcella
From texasgunlaws.org:

Q: Can I carry a firearm on my person? A: Yes, with proper licensing (Concealed Handgun License) you may carry a pistol or revolver on your person so long as it remains concealed. Long guns (rifles / shotguns) do not have to be concealed, but must be carried in a manner not calculated to cause alarm, and do not require a license.

21 posted on 01/29/2013 12:39:49 PM PST by Texican72
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To: tx_eggman; Marcella

Like Marcella says just above you, we don’t have open carry in Texas.... yet.

So your attention would be warranted.

I personally wish we just had open carry, no permit, no registration. The fools will take a few good ones with them, but would soon weed themselves out.


22 posted on 01/29/2013 12:40:24 PM PST by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: tx_eggman

and sorry for the late response... it took a while to get past post #11


23 posted on 01/29/2013 12:41:24 PM PST by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: tx_eggman
I'm with Trod Upon on this one.

To each his own, but maybe you two are just too nervous or paranoid to carry a firearm. You could end up in prison for the rest of your life, for jumping to a conclusion prematurely.
24 posted on 01/29/2013 12:41:49 PM PST by ZX12R
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To: VanDeKoik
Hell no! He is lucky a thinking gun owner didn’t blow his head off.

What actions did he take or threat did he pose that would cause a "thinking gun owner" to decide that he needed to have his head blown off?

25 posted on 01/29/2013 12:42:55 PM PST by Bob
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To: SoFloFreeper
A “debate”? Brandishing a weapon in a public place for no apparent reason is a “Second Amendment debate”?

To keep and BEAR arms.
26 posted on 01/29/2013 12:43:12 PM PST by ZX12R
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To: Texican72; Marcella; tx_eggman

well, then again, we could be incorrect.


27 posted on 01/29/2013 12:43:45 PM PST by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: SpinnerWebb

You are welcome... ;-)


28 posted on 01/29/2013 12:46:36 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: ZX12R

Yes, so let us look at what that meant to the founders.

My recollection is that bearing arms meant, to the founders, carrying them when and if there is a reason to bring them out into a public place. The founders didn’t foolishly carry arms into a place where they weren’t normally needed...unless they were expecting trouble from the redcoats.

Am I off base in that recollection?


29 posted on 01/29/2013 12:47:45 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Dead Corpse

Pic of the day.


30 posted on 01/29/2013 12:48:48 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yes. You are wrong.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1933938/posts

Unless they’ve changed the meaning of “to be at all times armed” along with “shall not be infringed”.


31 posted on 01/29/2013 12:50:09 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Yeah... There are more out there too...

God bless Israel. In more than one way, hopefully.

As for open carry, I'm ok with it as long as you are behaving yourself. Expect folks to keep an eye on you, but situational awareness demands you keep aware of ANY potential threat. Not OMGWTFBBQ/DefCon1... But aware.

Open, concealed, long gun, pistol, machine gun, rocket launcher... I don't care. Educate the sheep by being nice, but BE ARMED.

32 posted on 01/29/2013 12:54:57 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Hhhmmm... Screwed up my img code somehow...

Ok... Better.

33 posted on 01/29/2013 12:57:33 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Am I off base in that recollection?

I don't know, I wasn't there, but I'd guess it meant that in order for any federal militia to be well regulated and kept in their place, that citizens should display their weapons when ever they liked, so as to remind them that we are not their subjects, if we are not criminals, made so by constitutional laws.
34 posted on 01/29/2013 12:57:33 PM PST by ZX12R
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To: rarestia

Great post on how the “normalization” thing works. And of course some of the foundations of this nation are being made to be “abnormal” (public prayer, chastity, guns, etc.)

On a personal note - seeing someone in public with a visible, holstered pistol draws my eye - but no other reaction except to assess the person. (Always an older gray-haired white guy that isn’t at the top of my threat matrix.) A rifle over a twenty-something guy’s shoulder would. And while I think it would be prudent to assess the situation - no difference legally between the two in my state. BUT - it seems that the media and elites views have even filtered into my brain. (As a kid it was common to wander the neighborhood with our .22’s and nobody gave us a second glance).


35 posted on 01/29/2013 1:00:20 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Never saw that letter; thanks for the source.

I wonder if one can extrapolate the meaning of an amendment from the excerpt of one letter—the same kind of exercise was done by SCOTUS regarding “wall of separation between church and state” using, ironically, one single phrase from a letter by Jefferson.

Seems to me the founders didn’t think that “bear” arms meant carrying them everywhere or brandishing them without purpose.

Of course, if the “open carry” law is in the jurisdiction, then there should be no problem.


36 posted on 01/29/2013 1:00:43 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.
-— Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors.


37 posted on 01/29/2013 1:08:00 PM PST by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: SoFloFreeper

More than one source.

http://constitution.org/dhbr.htm

Lots to read.


38 posted on 01/29/2013 1:18:42 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Free Vulcan
You do not brandish it around in a store to ‘prove a point’. You may end up proving a different point than you intended.

Where in the story do you see where he brandished the rifle?

39 posted on 01/29/2013 1:22:36 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

No where. Some folks have “the Fear” when it comes to expressing their Rights.


40 posted on 01/29/2013 1:25:09 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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