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To: Viennacon
Israel doesn’t count.

what kind of argument is that? Ignore the facts that are inconvenient and harp on others? Of course Isreal counts. Women do very well in the Israeli military - and standards are not lowered because of their inclusion.

Women have been in battle throughout the centuries - It's no accident that Mars was God of War, but Mathematics, Logic, and Battle Strategy belonged to a woman-- the Goddess Minerva. Roman generals made offerings to Minerva before a battle, because they really, really wanted to win.

23 posted on 01/25/2013 9:35:10 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

This is worth repeating! Thanks.


24 posted on 01/26/2013 8:21:36 AM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
"The image of the gun-toting Israeli woman warrior is widely seen as the prototype of a gender-blind military. Reality is different. Israeli women are subject to the draft — but they serve two years while men serve three. Women also were barred from direct combat until 2000, when the first and so far only mixed gender infantry battalion was organized. The Caracal battalion, which is about 60 percent female, was assigned to patrol the relatively quiet borders with Jordan and Egypt. Still, more than 90 percent of Israel’s military jobs are open to women — including high-risk posts such as air force pilots, air defense, naval gunboat crews, artillery and search and rescue. But the five major infantry brigades are still all-male."
27 posted on 01/26/2013 8:43:42 AM PST by jpsb
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
In an interview with Voice of Israel government-run radio, Ron-Tal said that “It turns out that the amount of stress fractures suffered by soldiers is dozens of percentage points higher among women than among men. As a result, the female soldiers are not required to carry as much weight.”

“I think that women’s service in combat roles in the IDF should not be widened,” he said. “I cannot even imagine a female soldier serving inside a tank or in elite infantry units, mostly because of operational considerations. The army must not allow this thing to interfere with its operational ability.

Laws that mandate the inclusion of women in combat units “place the military in a nearly impossible situation,” he said. “Expanding female service will be a grave mistake that will damage the prowess of the army. Women’s service in roles that are not suited to them might harm state security,” he warned.

General Ron-Tal led the fight to include woman in combat roles ten years ago. He evidentially has relearned the lessons of the 1948 war.

28 posted on 01/26/2013 8:55:09 AM PST by jpsb
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

No. If this nation was under constant threat from Canada and Mexico, I would be in favor of putting women into combat because there would be no other choice. This is why Israel is justified. Since we do not have this issue, we have no excuse.

As has been said before, there is no problem with women serving in the military in support roles, but to place them on an equal footing with men when it comes to combat is a gross and unnecessary alteration to the already superior structure of the US military.
Please, when the first videos come back from the Middle East of women having their heads cut off after being raped, tell us then that you’ll be happy to have your daughters or granddaughters drafted like males.


29 posted on 01/26/2013 11:10:56 AM PST by Viennacon
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