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1 posted on 01/18/2013 10:27:26 AM PST by opentalk
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I think we’re an over vaccinated population and it weakens us.

Its your immune system, use it or lose it.


2 posted on 01/18/2013 10:32:13 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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I read some stats that said 62% of those that got the vaccine didn't get the flu. But 38% did?? I'd say it was pretty worthless.

The big thing....If you're sick....STAY HOME !!

3 posted on 01/18/2013 10:34:32 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Well, then, GlaxoSmithKline and Merck just aren’t doing their job! They need to get employers to force their employees to have the flu shot or be fired...yeah, that’s the ticket....


6 posted on 01/18/2013 10:49:05 AM PST by Sioux-san
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Wash your hands, keep them away from your nose and mouth, take big doses of Vitamins C & D and your chances of catching anything are greatly reduced.


8 posted on 01/18/2013 10:57:10 AM PST by txrefugee
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Vitamin D3 through the winter months has kept my primary-school-teacher wife and me free of Flu(and other virii) for 3 and a half years. Before that she used to bring colds and/or flu home 3-5 times a year.


14 posted on 01/18/2013 11:17:27 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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Socialist medicine.


15 posted on 01/18/2013 11:20:33 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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When in the military I had to take the mandatory flu shot. The shot made me more sick than I have ever been in my entire life! I had to get a penicillin shot to get rid fo the flu that the shot gave to me! Ask me if I am against the flu shot.


27 posted on 01/18/2013 12:07:05 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: opentalk; All

Vaccination isn’t perfect, but then again, neither are seat belts in cars.

Add to that influenza is *extremely* fickle, and very prone to mutate, even in the middle of an epidemic.

The Swine flu that menaced the US during president Ford *could* have been a major killer, but just before it got to the US, it mutated into a much less harmful strain.

However, just a few years ago, a fairly ordinary Swine flu in the rest of the world suddenly turned murderous in Ukraine. A lot of doctors there refused to believe it was the flu, because the lungs of many of the people who had died looked “burned black”. What they saw was an immune system overreaction called the Cytokine storm. They were not killed by the flu, but by their own immune system.

In fact, this year, as usual the vaccination was for the three *most likely* strains of flu, but the flu that hit was only a ‘cousin’ to one of those vaccine strains, so people only got “partial immunity.”

Importantly, flu is passed by coughing and sneezing most at the optimal temperature of 40F and low humidity. Raise the temperature and humidity, and flu becomes much more reliant on hand contamination.

So when out in public during cold and flu season, use hand sanitizer. It helps in a big way.

Importantly, for those who want to give their immune system a “workout”, there is a problem to your theory. That is, when you get a cold or flu, the symptoms you show are not the sickness itself, but your immune system response to it.

If you get a lot of strong symptoms, it just shows that your immune system is weak, and overreacting; it doesn’t necessarily strengthen it, just stress it. The time to strengthen your immune system is when you are *not* sick.

And there are lots of foods and herbs and “probiotic” live culture bacteria that you can eat that is known to strengthen your immune system.

But it is also important that your immune system be moderated, so it doesn’t overreact. It can be “too strong”, which can create some unpleasant problems as well.


31 posted on 01/18/2013 12:24:57 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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Sorry but I travel and I have not met anyone who knows anyone who has had the flu.

I think it is a big hoax to get people to take the vaccine because the drug comp donated money to O and now he owes them. Thus publicity to scare people to take the vaccine.


44 posted on 01/25/2013 8:42:18 AM PST by ncpatriot
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