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Obama: Doctors Should Ask About Guns in Homes
Newsmax ^ | Wednesday, 16 Jan 2013 11:58 AM | Jim Meyers

Posted on 01/16/2013 9:53:02 AM PST by Olog-hai

You’re visiting your doctor because you have flu symptoms. After checking your heart, pulse and other vital signs, your doctor turns to you and asks, “By the way, the federal government has authorized me to ask you, What type and how many guns do you have in your home?”

Sounds like George Orwell’s “1984”? Wrong. It’s 2013. And if President Barack Obama gets his way by executive order, doctors across the country could play a key role in his new gun control initiative.

On Wednesday morning, Obama released a sweeping 23 executive actions and orders he will take to limit gun usage. Already, talk of the executive orders has raised significant controversy. Order 16, for example, may raise serious concerns with privacy advocates. The order, as summarized, simply states federal agencies will “clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.” …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; obamacareguns; obamagunpresser; secondamendment
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To: Olog-hai

Well, if my doctor won’t accept “none of your f***ing business” as an answer, it will be time to find a new doctor.


41 posted on 01/16/2013 10:17:22 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: anyone

At least in my part of the country, Oklahoma, I’m pretty sure most doctors are just utterly THRILLED to be instructed to act as proxies for the State on this matter (sarcasm) at the same time the State tries its best to reduce their income and increase their paperwork and vulnerabilities to lawsuits through Obamacare. Sure, there are probably doctors who worship Obama and the State, but I don’t think this new initiative is going to create new ones from their ranks.


42 posted on 01/16/2013 10:17:55 AM PST by Coyote Choir
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To: pepperdog; Olog-hai
It has been asked at our local hospital for at least two years

Back when I was still in the work force, I was required to have an annual hearing test. One of the questions I was always asked was if I smoked. I always said no, even though I did indeed smoke, thinking, what the hell does smoking have to do with hearing.

One year she asked me, I said no and she said, "I can see a pack of cigarettes in your shirt pocket". I told her that I was just carrying them for a friend, who didn't want his parents to know that he smoked.

She was not amused.

43 posted on 01/16/2013 10:18:26 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Olog-hai
Obama released a sweeping 23 executive actions and orders he will take to limit gun usage,.

That is the biggest overstatement in the history of reporting.

44 posted on 01/16/2013 10:18:26 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
"They can ask all they want. And I can just tell them to baisse my cul."

In which case he will put you down as "refused to answer" which the Feds will treat as a "yes" answer. Better to just lie and say no.

45 posted on 01/16/2013 10:19:50 AM PST by circlecity
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To: DManA

Step 3: Lie to the sorry bastards. Not a case where the truth is obligatory, useful, nor merited.


46 posted on 01/16/2013 10:19:55 AM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Don’t count on that.


47 posted on 01/16/2013 10:20:53 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Olog-hai
Lots of stupid comments on this thread, already blaming physicians for being arms of Obamacare.

First of all, physicians are overwhelmingly conservative and many are gun owners or licensed dealers in arms.

Second, the worthless American glommy people are the ones whose representatives wanted Obamacare, and who voted for Obama, where all this intrusion is coming from.

The American people must have wanted this sort of invasion of privacy because they just went along with socializing all of medicine.

It sure ain't the fault of the physicians.

And even if the American people enjoy sticking it to the medical profession by consigning them forever to socialism, most physicians still have enough integrity to disobey any of these sorts of orders to report on their (treacherous) countrymen. They won't be ratting you out.

48 posted on 01/16/2013 10:23:16 AM PST by caddie
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To: Eva
"Macht schnell! You vill answer mein question, herr, or the Geheime Staats polizei vill visit your home und shutzen your doggie! "Nice doggie. They will shutzen him anyway. Now, confess citizen! How many fingers?" Herr Doktor Kleine Liebchen
49 posted on 01/16/2013 10:24:06 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Nope doc, no guns in my house. Now please proceed with the annual bloodstream lead check, because I’m really in to my stained glass hobby.”


50 posted on 01/16/2013 10:24:31 AM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: Olog-hai

This doesn’t bother me. If I didn’t like the doctor, I’d just say no and move on. I’ll talk about shooting and my guns to just about anyone that asks. I get gun catalogs in the mail and paperwork from the NRA and VSSA, so the Post Office knows. I go on line, so my ISP knows. The states that I have purchased weapons from know. Florida knows I had a CCW permit. I have a VSSA sticker on my car, stores where I purchase cleaning supplies or ammo know I have guns. The range certainly knows. I use my credit card for purchases. If I choose to open-carry, the world knows. I don’t see the problem.


51 posted on 01/16/2013 10:25:20 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Robe

Yes, they will be looking for any reason they can to declare you mentally ill now. Be careful what you say.


52 posted on 01/16/2013 10:27:21 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Olog-hai

Depends on the Doc, I guess. On general principle, NOYB, but if your Doc is like mine and the previous conversation you had with him on the topic is how his last batch of reloads is working out for you, it’s sort of a different thing.


53 posted on 01/16/2013 10:27:52 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Olog-hai

can I then ask the doctor for his hospital’s records on their current accidental patient deaths and pending and recently settled lawsuits?


54 posted on 01/16/2013 10:28:49 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: muir_redwoods

He can ask; I don’t have to answer

And your non-answer will be taken not only as a ‘yes’ but also that you are paranoid and angry about intrusive questions- further increasing your risk of violence. think you will just be able to go to a different doctor who wont’ ask? Good luck. not only will that information transfer with your records, but all doctors will essentially be government agents working under Obamacare, so there will be nowhere to go.


55 posted on 01/16/2013 10:35:14 AM PST by usmom
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I have found that mental health workers are the nuttiest people I’ve ever known. Most of them have or have had mental problems themselves and that’s what prompts them to “help others”.


56 posted on 01/16/2013 10:35:35 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Olog-hai

Here’s how it works. First the doctors, then the school “nurses.” They ask the kids if there’s any guns at home, and then it starts.


57 posted on 01/16/2013 10:35:51 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Ancesthntr

That sounds like the plan of many peoples in history that ended up in bad endings.


58 posted on 01/16/2013 10:37:55 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Olog-hai

To those recommending lying: First of all, I am a sinner guilty of lying myself.

However, I am not proud of it ... and would never recommend it to others.

Something like - “I am sorry Doctor. I don’t believe that question is appropriate.” Then find another doctor.


59 posted on 01/16/2013 10:40:58 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: Orangedog
Look up oppositional defiant disorder in the DSM IV. That kind of answer will get you reported to the feds as being “mentally ill” and prohibited from gun ownership.

This is exactly my fear. However, I wonder about the doctor's malpractice insurance coverage if charged with violating my civil rights. We are a litigious society.

60 posted on 01/16/2013 10:41:43 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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