Posted on 01/08/2013 10:59:00 AM PST by Kaslin
Whether you bought into or not is not the issue. CA Prop 19 and other pro-dope measures are on the table in part TO ADD TAXABLE REVENUE TO THE STATE.
Just like cigarettes and booze - the gubmnint will tax the hell outta dope.
ok replace one with your and they with you
Will you ever tell us what should be done about the people who use the use the drug alcohol to temporarily escape reality? Note that "ban other drugs" is not an answer.
The FDA regulates methamphetamine, the codones and cocaine at a far more stringent level than dronabinol.
State lawmakers do not have quite the same leeway with those substances.
They’ll never make up in taxes as lost revenue from use.
I do not see my life as having been in any way impoverished by "listening to others" rather "seeing for myself" in these matters.
Especially since I have "listened to others" by observing their disedifying behavior as a powerful cautionary tale.
Since teens report that they can get pot more easily than beer or cigarettes, it looks like the most effective way to keep pot out of teens' hands is to legalize it for adults - so sellers have an incentive not to sell to kids (namely, the loss of their legal adult sales).
Every once in awhile - one of these pro-dopers lets down their guard and expresses the same garbage POV with regards to supporting gay marriages or abortion.
It’s quite satisfying to see them get the zot.
Yeah, like no one ever smoked rope in the old days...
The drug war is a war on people and liberty - and no - I DON’T SMOKE POT OR OR SNORT COKE LIKE CHOOMBAMA!
Now that I think about this more I have another question. What other group in history chose to not debate facts and instead claim their opponent was on drugs or otherwise mentally incapacitated?
Only because lawmakers so decided; they are free to decide differently in the future.
“I say alchohol is a necessary evil”
You start out upside down right away, then. Alchohol is NOT an evil. People may do evil things under its influence and it may lead to all manner of social ills, but it is not evil in itself. Our criminal law is supposed to be based on acts that are malum in se, or bad in themselves. When you start stretching the criminal law to cover activities that lead to bad general consequences, you are outside of the traditions of Western civilization. You are onto social engineering. Not that traditional crimes don’t have social consequences as well. But that’s not why they’re illegal. They are illegal because they’ve deprived other people of their rights, and because they are bad in themselves.
We must keep such things clear in our heads. Not because limited and technical social engineering will automatically lead to the general and pervasive engineering of 1984, where even unsocial thoughts are considered crimes. But we may forget, and may lose out rights by not recognizing liberty is not having your rights infringed instead of living in a well harmonized society, whatever legal principles got you there. Not that I think any principles but ours can provide harmony, nor that we won’t end up slouching toward 1984.
That’s for sure. The welfare roles alone resulting from stoned out dopers unfit to pass a drug test will cripple the economy.
Oh. I forgot. We’ll just pass MORE LAWS prohibiting them mean rich people (employers) from denying unemployment to stoners. That’ll solve the problem right? Make them hire regardless of whether or not applicants can pass a drug test.
/sarc
“People like on this thread don’t care about drugs and their dangers.”
Right, because we don’t want the federal government to fail to forestall them. You nigh as well say we don’t cate about sickness, for instance, because we don’t support nationalization of the healthcare industry.
G]Had you paid the slightest bit of attention on this thread, you would see that we are not saying we are “Pro dope”. We are saying that we are Pro responsibility and Pro constitutional government.
We are Anti-nany state, Anti Prohibition and Anti strip people of their rights as humans.
Now are you EVER going to tell me by what right or authority you can tell me or anyone what to do?
You carefully dodged my posts on that issue and rant on zots and the rest. Back up your Constitutional position.
I do not personally believe alcohol is bad. It can be bad, but overall it is not that bad.
Pot, coke, heroin, and meth (LSD/mescaline/shrooms) are mind altering in a way that just aren’t the same as drinking. Drinking messes people up badly, but not the way the others do.
Will you be providing evidence for this claim, or are we just supposed to accept your say-so?
That is entirely wrong. Drugs are a special case, indeed. Hey, if you legalized cipro as an OTC and everyone took it, would that be good?
Why stop at high drugs? How about making any antibiotic legal? Sure it would cause much more harm through non-prescription use and adaptation of bacteria, but why not right?
So its ok that drunks pound women into ICUs but not when a guy flying on Acid does?
That about right? Care to explain each of those carefully split hairs of yours?
If you want to compare the violence numbers based on drug type, lets do that.
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