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To: Tublecane

I do not personally believe alcohol is bad. It can be bad, but overall it is not that bad.

Pot, coke, heroin, and meth (LSD/mescaline/shrooms) are mind altering in a way that just aren’t the same as drinking. Drinking messes people up badly, but not the way the others do.


157 posted on 01/08/2013 1:58:40 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002
Drinking messes people up badly, but not the way the others do.

Will you be providing evidence for this claim, or are we just supposed to accept your say-so?

158 posted on 01/08/2013 2:00:48 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Monty22002

So its ok that drunks pound women into ICUs but not when a guy flying on Acid does?

That about right? Care to explain each of those carefully split hairs of yours?

If you want to compare the violence numbers based on drug type, lets do that.


160 posted on 01/08/2013 2:02:06 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Monty22002

Let’s say they chemically different, lead to different results, are worse in almost everyway conceivable. Okay. But using them is still not a crime, according to the traditional understanding of crime, notwithstanding obvious longtime departures from principle. Drug use, even if different and moreharmful in itself, is a crime you commit against whom? Whose rights are you violating? Your own? That makes no sense.

No, drug use as well as drinking are not malum in se, and for the dame reason. They are sins, maybe, or abusing them is. But not crimes.


244 posted on 01/08/2013 4:16:08 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Monty22002

Let’s say they chemically different, lead to different results, are worse in almost everyway conceivable. Okay. But using them is still not a crime, according to the traditional understanding of crime, notwithstanding obvious longtime departures from principle. Drug use, even if different and moreharmful in itself, is a crime you commit against whom? Whose rights are you violating? Your own? That makes no sense.

No, drug use as well as drinking are not malum in se, and for the same reason. They are sins, maybe, or abusing them is. But not crimes.


245 posted on 01/08/2013 4:16:17 PM PST by Tublecane
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