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WTF is wrong with this country?

Guns are legal. The 2A is the law of the land.

1 posted on 12/31/2012 4:38:52 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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And even though the Bushmaster was at Sandy Hook it was not used just slung over. He used hand guns, right?


2 posted on 12/31/2012 4:40:39 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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made $175,000 last year

Unbelievable!

3 posted on 12/31/2012 4:41:11 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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4 posted on 12/31/2012 4:42:57 PM PST by narses
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6 posted on 12/31/2012 4:43:26 PM PST by narses
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7 posted on 12/31/2012 4:44:26 PM PST by narses
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Don’t feel sorry for this donut eater. He’d be more them happy to enforce the same law that just got him.


8 posted on 12/31/2012 4:45:14 PM PST by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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Good. I hope they toss his cop ass into prison for the maximum term. The people who enforce these ridiculous, unconstitutional laws need to start getting the same penalties Joe Citizen would.


10 posted on 12/31/2012 4:47:10 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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WTF is wrong with this country?

It ain't just the 2nd. Amendment,.....

The 41-year-old cop, ... made $175,000 last year,

15 posted on 12/31/2012 4:54:29 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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And did those flash suppressors and other accessories make those weapons more deadly?

Would their removal have made it ‘safer’ to be shot by them?


25 posted on 12/31/2012 5:01:17 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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Did he have a 30 round clip???


30 posted on 12/31/2012 5:03:42 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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The 2A is the law of the land.

Not in New Jersey.

33 posted on 12/31/2012 5:08:54 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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An "assault weapon" in my book is something fully-automatic that burns calibers beginning with 3, 4, or 5.

That .22 stuff is for plinkers.

40 posted on 12/31/2012 5:16:40 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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... rifles were fitted with accessories including flash suppressors that made them illegal assault weapons under New Jersey law, police said.

That is completely hideous. Existing federal laws are bad enough, but NJ is completely wacked. Under federal law you can build an AR with a 14" barrel with a flash suppressor pinned and welded to the barrel, increasing the barrel length to 16". This technique takes what the ATF would consider a short barrel rifle (SBR) to a length that is no longer considered an SBR.

For the life of me I can't see any logic for an SBR being a particular length. In general SBRs increase a person's maneuverability in tight spaces, like getting in and out of vehicles, but the trade off is less accuracy. It is legal to own an SBR, but it has to be registered with the government and $200 tax stamp has to be purchased. As for the flash suppressor law in NJ, that makes little sense. That does little, if anything, to increase accuracy. Stupid me, but I equate accuracy to lethality. A compensator may help accuracy on multiple shots if a shooter is too much a wus to control an iddy-biddy 5.56 mm. If anything a compensator will piss off others at the range because the increased volume (bang). Otherwise flash suppressors and compensators are cosmetic.

Before the last election and the CT shooting I was really hoping that some gun laws would be repealed (state and federal). I would really like to shoot with a silencer; not because it looks cool, but because of safety reasons ... not losing my hearing. While it is legal to own a silencer, you also have to pay tribute to the federal government, and in PA you cannot hunt with a silencer. Nothing like the ring in your ears after you just shot a deer. No chance that those laws will change anytime soon.

44 posted on 12/31/2012 5:20:03 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (It is impossible to have a good faith negotiations with terrorists or any Muslim.)
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WTF is wrong with this country?

When a cop makes: "cop, who works at the George Washington Bridge and made $175,000 last year" THAT is what is wrong with this country. How many makers had to toil to support this taker?

45 posted on 12/31/2012 5:20:51 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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5 years in jail for an AR-15 or a SKS, a year or so for mags, $175K for a tollbooth cop, .... This entire article makes no sense when read in Oklahoma.

God Bless Flyover Country!


52 posted on 12/31/2012 5:32:21 PM PST by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/info/pdf/firearms/062408_title13ch54.pdf

“Assault firearms” means:
1. Any of the following firearms:
Algimec AGM1 type
Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder such as the “Street Sweeper” or “Striker 12”
Armalite AR-180 type
Australian Automatic Arms SAR
Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms
Beretta AR-70 and BM59 semi-automatic firearms
Bushmaster Assault Rifle
Calico M-900 Assault carbine and M-900
CETME G3
Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88 type
Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 series
Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2, AR 100 types
Demro TAC-1 carbine type
Encom MP-9 and MP-45 carbine types
FAMAS MAS223 types
FN-FAL, FN-LAR, or FN-FNC type semi-automatic firearms
Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12 shotguns
G3SA type
Galil type
Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, MP5, PSG-1
Intratec TEC 9 and 22 semi-automatic firearms
M1 carbine type
M14S type
MAC 10, MAC 11, MAC 11-9 mm carbine type firearms
PJK M-68 carbine type
Plainfield Machine Company Carbine
Ruger K-Mini-14/5 F and Mini-14/5 RF
SIG AMT, SIG 550SP, SIG 551SP, SIG PE-57 types
SKS with detachable magazine type
Spectre Auto carbine type
Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48 type
Sterling MK-6, MK-7 and SAR types
Steyr A.U.G. semi-automatic firearms
USAS 12 semi-automatic type shotgun
Uzi type semi-automatic firearms
Valmet M62, M71S, M76, or M78 type semi-automatic firearms
Weaver Arm Nighthawk;

2. Any firearm manufactured under any designation, which is substantially identical to any of the firearms listed in paragraph 1 above. As used in this definition, the term “substantial” means pertaining to the substance, matter, material or essence of a thing and the term “identical” means exactly the same. Hence, a firearm is substantially identical to another only if it is identical in all material, essential respects. A firearm is not substantially identical to a listed assault firearm unless it is identical except for differences that do not alter the essential nature of the firearm. The following are examples of manufacturer changes that do not alter the essential nature of the firearm: the name or designation of the firearm; the color of the firearm; the material used to make the barrel or stock of the firearm; the material used to make a pistol grip; and a modification of a pistol grip. This is not an exclusive list. A semi-automatic firearm should be considered to be “substantially identical,” that is, identical in all material respects, to a named assault weapon if it meets the below listed criteria:

i. A semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least
two of the following:
(1) A folding or telescoping stock;
(2) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
(3) A bayonet mount;
(4) A flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash
suppressor; and
(5) A grenade launcher;

I’m guessing he did not have a grenade launcher. That means he’s in deep trouble because (1) his (presumably soon to be ex-) wife was mad and wanted to get back at him, and (2) his rifle had a folding stock, bayonet mount, or pistol grip (none of which are relevant to lethality). Wrecking his life over whatever made his wife throw her fit is overkill (hint to guys, even Laz: no matter how cute she may be, STAY AWAY!). Wrecking his life because he violated a stupid law that he would use to wreck any other guy’s life strikes me as karma.


54 posted on 12/31/2012 5:33:36 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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A "Newtown-style assault rifle" is apparently not very effective, since the last known user is now taking a permanent dirt nap.

These newsreaders annoy me beyond my ability to describe.

55 posted on 12/31/2012 5:35:45 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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57 posted on 12/31/2012 5:37:44 PM PST by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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Ramsey, NJ, police said they took a total of 10 weapons from Haner after his wife asked for a temporary restraining order.

The 41-year-old cop, who works at the George Washington Bridge and made $175,000 last year

This is like Nazi Germany....The wife turns her husband in, he'll rot in prison, lose his home, loses career, probably gets beat to death in the joint, while she collects his lottery style government pension and bangs all his friends while he's caged...gezzz. .

And he committed absolutely no violent crime...

Old America is looking really good.

75 posted on 12/31/2012 6:26:22 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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he is a port authority cap and he makes $175,000 dollars a year????????????????????????????


90 posted on 12/31/2012 7:14:17 PM PST by terycarl
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