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Who’s Crazy? Mental-health experts are wrong.
National Review Online ^
| December 24, 2012
| D. J. Jaffe
Posted on 12/24/2012 3:45:03 PM PST by neverdem
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posted on
12/24/2012 3:45:23 PM PST
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
To: Sacajaweau
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posted on
12/24/2012 3:49:26 PM PST
by
neverdem
( Xin loi min oi)
To: neverdem
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posted on
12/24/2012 3:51:27 PM PST
by
RobbyS
(Christus rex.)
To: neverdem
At the end of that first page is a link about “seeks privileges”....Very interesting...shows he’s a sneaky liar after 30 years
To: neverdem
While virtually the entire nation unites around the reasonable proposition that people with serious mental illnesses should not own assault weapons, one group takes umbrage: mental-health experts. These "mental health experts" aren't stupid: Deny a patient the right to own a weapon and they sue if they are unable to defend themselves in an emergency. Fail to deny a patient the right to own a weapon and their victims sue them for doing so.
It is a no-win situation for them. Therefore, as the "experts in the field" they deny the linkage exists.
Problem solved.
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:05:56 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
To: neverdem
If it’s true that most seriously nutty people will nonetheless never try to murder someone... then it’s true. I’ve seen studies ridiculed for being too small, but this one is getting ridicule for being too large.
I see a furious orgy of dancing around the most obvious answer: communities, outraged about a spate of murderers visiting schools, should have armed the schools. Long ago. And shown no mercy to any (well intended or not) Federal regulation that would inhibit the capability of arming schools. It might be a nut today, a “sane” criminal tomorrow. Same result, if the school is not guarded.
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:07:34 PM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
To: neverdem
i heard some whiner say that only 4%-5% of violent crimes are committed by the mentally ill and that's proof they aren't dangerous...
well since my guess is that they prolly make up 1% to 3% of the population(i don't know the ratio) i'd say that's a pretty high percentage!
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:07:50 PM PST
by
Chode
(American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
To: Carry_Okie
The problem is the supposed "privacy" of psyciatrists (sp)?.
Their bottom line....I don't want to get involved....just collect my big fat paychecks.
You know damn well the theatre killer told his shrink of his plans...and she just sat on it.
To: Sacajaweau
Who engaged in the out of body spy travel to the shrink visits of the Batman killer?
“You know darn well” is not evidence of anything good or bad.
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:15:19 PM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
To: neverdem
"Mental-health experts are wrong."Because mental health, like all science, has be hijacked by the PC crowd. Ideology trumps fact.
Impeach the kenyan or secession.
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:18:09 PM PST
by
ex91B10
(We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
To: neverdem
Major Hassan was, in fact, a psychiatrist, and Holmes was in a field of study that would take him into psychiatric research, if not actual practice as a psychiatrist.
How many more psychiatrists and psychiatric researchers are there out there who are themselves CRAZY?
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:21:57 PM PST
by
muawiyah
To: Chode
Before accusing a segment of whining, try to nail down some facts. Such loaded language coupled with admitted ignorance scarcely wins agreement from anyone who didn’t already agree with you. To put it bluntly, you risk looking like you’re projecting.
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:24:27 PM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
To: HiTech RedNeck
the whiner i was referring to was a psychiatrist... and i know a little about some forms of mental illness as my ex is manic depressive or as her doctor insisted, bi-polar
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:28:42 PM PST
by
Chode
(American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
To: muawiyah
You are surely not the first to muse that, since normal people have very little reason to consider how minds operate (like the driver of a car in good condition has no need to know how a motor operates) then someone who does consider such things must be motivated to do so by some kind of personal mental imbalance, as a good mechanic probably owned a bum car. One really can't know that, a priori. But I had a buddy who absolutely swore by that notion. How does one argue against an idee fixe?
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:31:44 PM PST
by
HiTech RedNeck
(How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
To: neverdem
I think FedGov wants to include “mental illness” in the upcoming gun laws so that any doctor can disarm you by prescribing a drug for a mental problem. Zoloft and Prozac are obvious, but if it includes insomnia, then Ambien and the others get you disarmed.
With all medical records becoming digitized and centralized, it will be easier to get this data into NICS and onto the 4474.
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:41:51 PM PST
by
DBrow
To: neverdem
Exactly who was it that de-instituionalized the chronically insane people?
I will answer my own question: THE LIBERALS, who are chronically insane themselves.
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:44:51 PM PST
by
elkfersupper
( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
To: neverdem
Let the mentally insane idiot free after killing his grandmother with a hammer, but then make sure he live next door to the psychiatrist that gave him the “non-violent” diagnosis!
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:48:50 PM PST
by
broken_arrow1
(I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
To: DBrow
Anyone can claim to be “depressed” or sad. This is where the Obamacare costs will EXPLODE. Psychs will collect massive rent, donate a little the the ‘Rats, and us taxpayers will ‘circle the drain’!!!!
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posted on
12/24/2012 4:50:33 PM PST
by
4Liberty
(Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
To: Sacajaweau; neverdem
Their bottom line....I don't want to get involved....just collect my big fat paychecks. Considering the likelihood of a FATTER increase in their insurance premiums bankrupting their practices, and that they'd spend the bulk of their time defending themselves, and that they'd be unable to truly take a risk in helping a patient, and that the cost of the insurance would shrink their customer base to nothing, and that more people would go unidentified and untreated...
I disagree with you completely. The "bottom line" is tort law, just as it is with other physicians.
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posted on
12/24/2012 5:08:00 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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