Posted on 12/22/2012 3:15:52 PM PST by chiller
President Obama has threatened House Speaker John Boehner that if no deal is struck on the fiscal cliff, he will use his Inaugural address and State of the Union speech next month to blame Republicans, according to the Wall Street Journal.
In the Journals behind the scenes account of how fiscal cliff talks between Obama and Boehner hit a wall, what comes across is that the president is emboldened by his reelection and eager to extract more concessions from Boehner than he was willing to accept during last summers debt limit talks.
This excerpt from the piece is revealing:
Mr. Obama repeatedly lost patience with the speaker as negotiations faltered. In an Oval Office meeting last week, he told Mr. Boehner that if the sides didnt reach agreement, he would use his inaugural address and his State of the Union speech to tell the country the Republicans were at fault.
At one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, I put $800 billion [in tax revenue] on the table. What do I get for that?
You get nothing, the president said. I get that for free.
The whole article is well worth the read (subscription is required).
Nope they should chant in unison YOU LIE until that disgusting troll takes his ball and goes home.
Assuming you meant cutting spending; that was the great debate wasn't it? I was tempted too at first, but only if spending cuts were stone cold and immediate. I soon came to realize that would never be the case. Taxes go up right now. Cuts are left up to future years and, congresses, and Presidents and never happen.
Baseline budgeting is the problem, which means cuts aren't cuts at all, but simply reductions in the rate of growth (an automatic 10% annually, iirc) The Penny plan would solve this also. Scrap baseline budgeting, and reduce everything by 1%.
Boehner should take the debate to the House floor while Obama is in Hawaii, and not take the bill to Obama until it is finished. Do all the debating and negotiating out in the open.
“he told Mr. Boehner that if the sides didnt reach agreement, he would use his inaugural address and his State of the Union speech to tell the country the Republicans were at fault.”
Let the Commie say whatever he wants. In a way it is the Republican’s fault. They agreed to this POS fiscal cliff deal last year. It does not matter what the GOP does they will still get blamed so why not just do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may.
If the US House of Representatives had simply brought the Bush tax cuts to the floor and voted to extend them for a year or better yet make them permanent and then adjourned and gone home the Dems would just have had to stew in their own juice during the holidays. Now if we go off the cliff Obama will immediately start calling for tax cuts for the middle class and strong arm the pubbies into going along with it and hiking taxes on the rich.
The one thing the Republicans never learn is just to argue for the conservative small govt point of view and vote accordingly.
Boner is a jerk.
There wouldn’t even be a fiscal cliff if he hadn’t helped Obama and Reid set it up.
In unison. ;-)
I'd rather be damned for a ram than damned for a lamb.
Mr. Speaker, if your image is more important to you than the salvation of our nation then we don't want you either.
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Unless you are twelve or less years old, you have no business believing that the DemonRats will honor their end of the bargain.
I hate to tell you this - Santa Claus isn't real, either.
I’d prefer they stay, stand up and boo
Could have waited until after Christmas to spill the beans. Boner finds out he will start crying again.
Thats an even better excerpt of this article than the other post.
Compare the last part with the Godfather II, Michael Corleone’s answer to Senator Pat Geary:
You can have my answer now Senator, if you like. My final offer is this: nothing. Not even the fee for to the gaming license, which I would appreciate if you would put up personally
Obama goes in the fight with a tank, bomber and army and Republicans get lured in time and again with pea-shooter
Yep. Maybe it’s time to throw decorum out the window and every time Barry tells one of his lies during a speech, the conservatives shout out in unison “you lie”!
That’s exactly what they should do. They should get up and leave noisily. Let the last one out pull the power supply to the building. Don’t pay the electric bill either.
“WSJ: Obama threatened Boehner that hell use Inauguration & SOTU speches to blame GOP”
Anyone with any gumption would have told Barry “Bite me, Commie” and walked out.
From Boehner it would just be another crying episode.
I am so sick of these losers, poseurs, and charlatans.
Obama is a fool.
the republicans have the nuclear option - it is the debt ceiling
without an increase, the DC gov’t will go to an instant balanced budget with all the adjustment on the spending side.
Republicans do not have to fear what B-HO tells the nation. Let him go for it. Every adult in this country knows B-HO is a liar. Even those who voted for him know he is a liar - they just think he lies to everyone but them. Lies from the mouth of B-HO are just more evil words from a servant of Satan.
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