Posted on 12/18/2012 4:12:14 PM PST by servo1969
Psychiatrist James Knoll told CNN’s Headline News today that Adam Lanza, the perpetrator of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, was acting in a “ritualistic” way during the horrific events. Knoll, who does research at the State University of New York Upstate Medical University, said in a recent report that killers like Lanza see themselves as “pseudocommandos … driven by strong feelings of anger and resentment, in addition to having a paranoid character. He plans out the offense ritualistically, and comes prepared with a powerful arsenal of weapons.”
The report continues: “[The pseudocommando] most often kills in public during the daytime. And has no escape planned. Pseudocommandos are 'collectors of injustice' who nurture their wounded narcissism and ultimately retreat into a fantasy life of violence and revenge."
Knoll wrote that killers like Lanza have an “obliterative mindset … his ‘self’ is already dead and … his physical death is of little consequence” in his own mind.
Knoll emailed HLN to let them know that psychiatry couldn’t do much about these sorts of people. “We think far too shallow about these events. We concern ourselves with metal detectors, security systems, 'profiles,' preventing 'the mentally ill' from obtaining firearms. This is shallow, facile thinking. Want to make a material impact? Think deeper. Cultivate a respect for how to teach compassion, nonviolence and personal responsibility in individual minds.”
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The comments from a high school friend of Lanza’s are very revealing.
So where did you get his medical charts from?
You got it! Trust the experts, I always say! (Or rather, “trust the experts!”)
Brava.
I used to know a German (or Austrian) feller named Asberger (true!), and I used to like Mario Lanza. Doesn’t that make me a expert or what?!
“Autistic spectrum” is just the latest fad term used to aggregate a number of possibly unrelated conditions. “Schizophrenia” has a similar history. It’s just cover for the collective ignorance of the psychiatric profession, which has fallen prey to a puritanical materialism that leads to one scientific dead end after another. Man is hybrid, both machine and spirit, not merely the sum of his chemical constituents, but made in the image of God. Any analysis ignoring this is doomed to wallow in primitive theories of limited benefit to the patient. It is like we have advanced in our biological knowledge in so many good ways, but are still stuck in the “leeches are good for you” stage of psychiatric knowledge. Wasn’t it “Bones” of Star Trek who called 20th Century medicine “stone knives and bear skins?” After my brush with the present state of psychiatry, I have to agree with him. We have a long way to go.
Does that suggest (serious question) that people who don’t get written sarcasm and irony, and as you probably know there are many around here, may be suffering from Asbergers?
Re: “How do you cultivate this (i.e. respect) in someone born without empathy or awareness?”
Good question, but the big elephant in the room which many psychologists/psychobabblers, TV pundits, and Liberals/Marxists refuse to see is that a person can be “EVIL”.
It can be an innate, a birth mental defect in the brain that causes a person to be or become (with age), a sociopath or psychopath. Not their fault as they have no ability to either know right from wrong or to prevent themselves from doing harm to people/animals.
Others become psychopaths through ideological indoctrination, of which the Nazis and Communists were the masters. I might add that back during the time of the Inquisition, for example, religious zealots, in the name of God, performed horrible torture/killings and became psychopaths themselves.
If you study or read about the Cambodian children who were kidnapped by the Khmer Rouge and made to kill their own parents, you will begin to understand one process wherein a normal individual becomes a psychopathic killer. Communism (and Nazism, and Tojoism) kills the learned concepts of good, decent, proper, “normal”, respectful, i.e. “morality.”
So too does Liberalism in its extremis, which you can see so readily in the output of garbage from Hollywood, the criminal Rap singers, the drug culture, etc.
Psychopaths are both born and created. The devolution of American culture (religious, educational, moral, scientific (i.e. the rise of voodoo science like the Communist “Lysenkoism”), and “selective morality” are gateways to leading “normal” people to deviancy (sociopath and psychopathic mindsets).
Religion, for all its problems, has created some universal moral codes which were meant to develop, in people, a way to being a decent person and practicing decency towards others.
Modern Liberalism, added by the extremes of Fascism, Racial Superiority (Fascism and Japanese Imperialism), and Communism, learned that you must destroy this “decency” and create the “new modern man”, a person devoid of personal decency. Instead “decency” is decided and imposed by the “state”, and anyone who opposes this totalitarian mode of governance must be destroyed “as an enemy of the people.”
If you indoctrinate a child at an early age to kill “the enemy” (whoever the state says it is), they will become state-trained killers. Just look at the barbarism of the North Koreans towards their own people, American soldiers, So. Koreans, etc.
Russia/Red China and Kim Il Song created a nation of psychopaths and prisoners, yet the Obama regime thinks it can deal with them on a rational basis. I’m not sure who’s crazier in this case, Obama/Hillary/Rice or the No. Koreans.
The same applies to trying to rationally dealing with harden gangbangers, drug dealers/traffickers, stone-killers/icemen/hitmen, or Ed Schulz. You can try but you can never succeed because they live in a different mental world than we do, devoid of our Judaeo-Christian ethnic and morals.
Some moderate Moslems also live decent lives and don’t hurt anyone, but what do you think of the PLO terrorists who slaughtered many Israeli young school children at Maalot in 1974, and elsewhere? And what was the mindset of the Moslem in France who killed three Moroccan soldiers, a Rabbi and his children in the name of Allah?
Was this mass murderer any different in mindset than Adam Lanza was when he shot little children in the face? This French Moslem slit the throat of a little Jewish girl by holding her hair and pulling her head back, and this kind of killing in normal in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and Algeria, esp. as committed by Al Qaeda and the Taliban.
Did Major Hassan exhibit “morality” when he gunned down fellow American soldiers in the name of “Allah”? I don’t know whether he was always a psychopath or became one over time through self-religious indoctrination (aided by Al-Alaki), but the end result was the same, the slaughter of the innocents.
EVIL exists in this world, yet the Liberals too often refuse to acknowledge its’ existence in people, thus denying themselves the ability to deal with it in its most terrible forms.
I blame the Quakers for a lot of this “respect” for the deviants of society. They believe that even bad people can be saved. How do you save a Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, the Atlanta child killer (Williams?), Ted Bundy, the Zodiac killers, and Lanza?
Sometimes you can’t and you must face the reality that the evil ones must be destroyed, killed, so that they never pose a threat to another human, ever.
Too many Liberals, including psychologists, refuse to accept this reality and make excuses for that which cannot be excused, only somewhat understood.
PS: Many of my relatives died by execution, gas chambers, or other means of the Nazi killing machine during WW2 at Lemberg, Belzec and Auschwitz concentration camps. There was no rational reason why this had to happen but a whole nation was captivated, mesmerized and indoctrinated by a madman named Hitler (or Stalin, Lenin,Trotsky) or Che Guevera, Pol Pot, Kim Il Song and the greatest mass murderer in history, Mao Tse-tung, White House advisor to Obama, Anita Dunn’s favorite philosopher.
Some people are born evil like Lanza, but they often kill themselves. Others like Dunn and Van Jones learn it at our schools and universities, then get jobs at the White House.
In the end, the innocent are still dead while some of the “mental” killers find successful careers in destroying America and all that is good in it.
It seems fairly evident that FReepers as a group have a higher than average incidence of Aspergers to me.
Visit any John Semmens semi-satire thread if you don’t believe me, lol.
This shrinker’s post facto theory and pseudo-medical diagnosis are as good as anybody’s, including posters on this thread with life experience in the area, and I see no reason to diss anyone offering an opinion, but perhaps those who seem so anxious to it (diss) suffer from similar psychological maladies as the Lanza boy.
That’s exactly what prompted my question, the high incidence of dead seriousness when it comes to humor without a laugh track.
There are a lot of different meanings of narcissism. "Narcissism" is a pretty good word to use to discribe a more or less "normal" person who's very self-involved and doesn't form relationships with other people. It's of less use in describing psychopathologies and the different senses of the word can get in the way of understanding. With really damaged people it doesn't fit and doesn't get at what's going on in their heads.
The security head of his high school who also advised Lanza’s extracurricular activity said he had to be watched closely because he could not feel the pain caused by fire and thus could damage himself severely. I have the same thing your dad had and don’t notice any cut or blister in my foot. Thus I inspect my feet nightly. There is some feeling but I do have issues with balance.
I was just wondering how anyone could look at young children and shoot them multiple times. Imagine the terror and pain of the child waiting to die. Empathy won’t let most of us do this. Perhaps he couldn’t imagine what they were feeling? The other reasons for such a killing frenzy (religion, race or ethnic hatred, not believing the others to be human) don’t seem to be present here.
LOLOL!
pseudocommandos … driven by strong feelings of anger and resentment, in addition to having a paranoid character. He plans out the offense ritualistically, and comes prepared with a powerful arsenal of weapons.”
“pseudocommando] most often kills in public during the daytime. And has no escape planned. Pseudocommandos are ‘collectors of injustice’ who nurture their wounded narcissism and ultimately retreat into a fantasy life of violence and revenge.”
Knoll wrote that killers like Lanza have an “obliterative mindset “
Damn! You could insert nobama into each graphic description and explain a lot.
Not the same situation.
One of the funnier episodes of Big Bang Theory involved Sheldon Cooper’s roommate having to make a “sarcasm” sign.
What kind of pandemonium would break out on FR without the “/s,” lol?
This is exactly what I see that went wrong.
This kid needed Bible study or church if ever a kid needed it. He had no line in his mind that he could not cross. I believe he was powerless and scared all his life. He then exploded in a rage, takeing the ultimate power over human life. Killing was rehearsed in this kids mind a 100 times or more. Thou shalt not kill? Maybe he heard that once.
I have yet to hear that this kid was a member of any church.
Those are serial killers, it's a different mentality from a mass or spree killer.
I like your Goldwater quote...
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