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Plan to Pipe Missouri River Water to Colorado
CBS St Louis ^ | 12/11/12

Posted on 12/17/2012 11:03:53 AM PST by dirtboy

DENVER (KMOX) - The battle for more river water is about to get even more serious.

Along with the debate over whether to send more water down the Missouri River for navigation purposes, enter Colorado in the picture.

The Colorado River is low on water and, according to the New York Times, a plan by the Federal Bureau of Reclamation is about to be revealed that would take water from the Missouri River and send it into a 600 mile pipeline to the Colorado River.

It would provide the Colorado River Basin with 600,000 acre-feet of water each year. The plan reportedly calls for building a pipeline from the Missouri River to Denver along with a mammoth pumping station at Leavenworth, Kansas to send water to the mile-high city.

(Excerpt) Read more at stlouis.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: water; waterworld
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To: dirtboy

Kansas and Missouri did not vote for Obamugabe. Colorado DID.

See how that works, boys and girls?


21 posted on 12/17/2012 12:52:51 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: dirtboy

The Columbia river should be diverted to the high plains, but that wouldn’t waste enough money or be dependent enough on future allocations to as effectively enslave the recipients.

And Washington and Oregon are dependable Dem states.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 1:00:31 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: dirtymac

How about the dams on the Columbia river?


23 posted on 12/17/2012 1:08:01 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Dams on the Columbia primarily affect the more conservative parts of WA and OR. Dams on the Colorado affect a lot more liberals. Like the Hetch Hetchy reservoir that supplies San Francisco. They (SF) are able to meet their own needs and sell more to surrounding communities. The are also able to sell a significant amount of electricity to others.

There is an attempt to remove the H.H. reservoir, like the enviromentalist are screaming about the Columbia, and the libtards in SF are going crazy trying to prevent this from happening.

The water issue is never about what the libtards are stating as a cause. It is totally about power and the destruction of the U.S.

So, I am kind of being sarcastic. But what if it were an issue. Go after the libtards wather supply for LA, SF and Sacramento. The libtards were very successful in the Central Valley of CA so it can work.


24 posted on 12/17/2012 1:15:58 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: dirtboy

If the water gets piped to the Colorado River then it can end up going all the way to Los Angeles. Why, oh why, do I smell the stench of the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California all over this?


25 posted on 12/17/2012 1:27:26 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: jrd
Canada will veto that. Also Mn, Wisc, Michigan, Ohio, Penn. and NY. There's a town in Wisc, about 10 miles from lake Michigan but outside the lake's drainage basin, they were not allowed to pipe water from the lake.

why not start the pipe line from one of the great lakes

26 posted on 12/17/2012 1:28:15 PM PST by DManA
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To: jrd
Well we have a little treaty among the states in the watershed and Canada that forbids it for one thing.
27 posted on 12/17/2012 1:35:15 PM PST by smithandwesson76subgun (full auto fun)
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To: DManA

did not know that...thanks for the info


28 posted on 12/17/2012 1:38:32 PM PST by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: frankenMonkey

I have understood that a lot of CO water goes down the CO River unused. That was why they planned the Twoforks damn that never happened thanks to evironazies. Would come in handy about now.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 1:46:08 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

All of the water gets used. But these days Mexico gets some of it. Didn’t used to be that way.

In the end nothing but a marsh marks the place where the colorado runs into the gulf of california.


30 posted on 12/17/2012 1:52:23 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
All of the water gets used.

It does. Still, I believe some of what CO is entitled to is used by AZ and CA because CO has no way to store it.

31 posted on 12/17/2012 2:12:49 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

till, I believe some of what CO is entitled to is used by AZ and CA because CO has no way to store it.
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The way the divy up the water is by an agreement that was made sometime in the 1930’s or 40’s. not sure which. but it was before the big cities in nevada became big. so nevada didn’t get much of a slice. for that matter neither did colorado because there wasn’t much population west of the front range. most of the water went to arizona and california. mexico has managed to negotiate a larger slice than they used to. maybe nevada and colorado have too —but I haven’t heard about it.


32 posted on 12/17/2012 2:19:23 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: DManA

why not start the pipe line from one of the great lakes
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last I heard the great lakes states wouldn’t allow their water to be pumped. Its a shorter distance in any case from the missouri.


33 posted on 12/17/2012 2:21:41 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
maybe nevada and colorado have too —but I haven’t heard about it.

Don't know. I was mistaken about twoforks, it was to be on the Platt, not CO River.

34 posted on 12/17/2012 2:36:51 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: dirtboy
According to the article, the source is a leak to the New York Times. There seem to be many inaccuracies. Denver is not in the Colorado Basin but is in the Platte River Basin, which flows into the Missouri. Denver would be the worst place to get water in the Colorado, because you would have to pump it over the highest part of the Continental Divide. "Massive" would not describe the pumps needed. Better to run the line through Wyoming and come down behind the Front Range. Finally, Colorado gets a relatively small share of Colorado River water.

Plus, this is supposed to be a Department of the Interior project. If something like this is afoot in this administration, betcha a box of Twinkies it is for some form of enviro cause.

35 posted on 12/17/2012 4:57:51 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: ckilmer

I’m sure a dozen Indian tribes could also tie it up in court for at least a generation.

Really the age of great civil engineering projects is over in the US.


36 posted on 12/17/2012 5:40:10 PM PST by DManA
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To: ckilmer
I'm not sure what you are saying. If you are talking about the Red River of the North, that drains into Hudson's bay.

In fact if they could figure out a way to efficiently skim off the top ten feet during spring flood above the red river, they’d do everyone in the missippi basin a whole lot of good.

37 posted on 12/17/2012 5:46:04 PM PST by DManA
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To: colorado tanker

While I’m certainly no engineer, bringing water south from Montana, across Wyoming, and into Colorado, sure makes a whole lot more sense than pumping it from a thousand miles downstream.


38 posted on 12/17/2012 5:57:33 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Keep the guns, ban the anti-God-given rights politicians from ever holding office again.)
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To: DManA

I’m not sure what you are saying. If you are talking about the Red River of the North, that drains into Hudson’s bay.

In fact if they could figure out a way to efficiently skim off the top ten feet during spring flood above the red river, they’d do everyone in the missippi basin a whole lot of good.
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Where does the Red River begin?
The headwaters are the source of a stream/river. The Red River begins its total length of 1,360 miles in the Texas panhandle. The origins of the Red River are two forks (branches) in the Texas panhandle. The southern fork, Prairie Dog Town Fork, is formed in Randall County near Canyon, Texas. Prairie Dog Town Fork is formed from the confluence of Palo Duro Creek and Tierra Blanca Creek. The northern branch, North Fork, flows east entering Oklahoma. It then joins the southern branch at the Texas-Oklahoma border, northeast of Vernon, Texas. The Red River flows east, its south bank forming the border between Texas and Oklahoma and a portion of the border between Texas and Arkansas at the northeastern corner of Texas. The Red River flows into Arkansas and turns south at Fulton, Arkansas entering Louisiana near Ida. In Louisiana the Red River forms the boundary between Caddo and Bossier parishes and flows southeast, through Red River, Natchitoches, Rapides, and Avoyelles parishes to join a partial outflow from the Mississippi River into the Atchafalaya River.

Where does the Red River end?
The Red River ends in Louisiana where it empties into the Mississippi River and the Atchafalaya. More specifically, the Red River ends as water from an outflow channel from the Mississippi River joins the Red River and flows into the Atchafalaya River near Simmesport, Louisiana. Water flowing from the Mississippi River into this outflow is regulated by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers at the Old River Control Structure. The water from the Atchafalaya River flows into the Gulf of Mexico. Sediment deposited forms the Atchafalaya Delta.
http://www.lsus.edu/offices-and-services/community-outreach/red-river-watershed-management-institute/about-the-basin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_of_the_South


39 posted on 12/17/2012 7:29:47 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Are you drunk? You know there’s more than one Red River?


40 posted on 12/17/2012 7:37:50 PM PST by DManA
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