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1 posted on 12/15/2012 7:54:05 PM PST by Veritas_et_libertas
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To: Veritas_et_libertas

This will be in exchange for entitlement cuts 15 or 20 years down the road, probably.

How much spending was cut last time around? None. Spending has continued to rise, mostly for completely useless nonsense.


2 posted on 12/15/2012 7:56:43 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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That money is not going to be used to lower the debt... it’s to spend. Why can’t the republicans EXPLAIN! to the public. We are SO unrepresented in Washington! The one thing the founding fathers forgot... was TERM LIMITS. They understimated the power congress has on those there... and the voters for keeping them there.


3 posted on 12/15/2012 7:59:26 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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This was a foregone conclusion from the beginning. The man was never the best choice for the job and has proved it time and again. This and the last Congress has no backbone ... and its too late to find it now. We have Dem and Dem-lite running the country. The lemmings will be following them off the cliff very soon.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 8:00:26 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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The REAL issue remains, Did Boehner allow Hussein the use of the checkbook?

That's whats really scary. If they let POTUS use the checkbook, it's GAME OVER

5 posted on 12/15/2012 8:02:19 PM PST by STD (“Cogito, ergo armatum sum)
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negotiating with himself again


6 posted on 12/15/2012 8:02:19 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Time for the Tea Party to take the place of the Republican Party, which shall go the way of the Whigs, the Federalists, the Know-Nothings and all that lot.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 8:05:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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Gosh, I didn't see that coming, did you?
9 posted on 12/15/2012 8:06:41 PM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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Heck of a job there Johnny.


10 posted on 12/15/2012 8:06:41 PM PST by Ray76 ("We're ready to be led" - John Boehner, leader of the opposition)
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Y’all are being silly. He hasn’t caved. Rates go up slightly on incomes over $1M. No extension of unemployment. No change in debt ceiling. Rates are going up on someone. There’s no way to avoid it.


11 posted on 12/15/2012 8:07:45 PM PST by Timmy
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Speaker John Boehner has proposed allowing tax rates to rise for the wealthiest Americans

And that will be it. There will be no spending cuts - period.

Good Cop/Bad Cop. Who didn't see these two guys planning the whole thing from the very beginning? Did ANYONE think they'd agree to protect the working class? They never do.

The tax slaves, once again, will just have to work longer hours or get a second job to support their own families. The freeloaders got hungry again.

15 posted on 12/15/2012 8:09:58 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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And he’ll do the same with gun control....we’re screwed


16 posted on 12/15/2012 8:10:18 PM PST by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it.)
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Speaker John Boehner has proposed allowing tax rates to rise for the wealthiest Americans if President Barack Obama agrees to major entitlement cuts, according to several sources close to the talks.

Awesome!
The Republicans can raise taxes AND push granny off a cliff.
What a deal!

Wait. What?

Good God in Heaven, will the Republicans PLEASE get rid of this simple assclown Boehner?

19 posted on 12/15/2012 8:13:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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and America takes another one in the........

20 posted on 12/15/2012 8:13:59 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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One party states never go in a good direction.

We deserve to have an Opposition Party, but we don't have one.

22 posted on 12/15/2012 8:15:56 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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RE :”Speaker John Boehner has proposed allowing tax rates to rise for the wealthiest Americans if President Barack Obama agrees to major entitlement cuts, according to several sources close to the talks.”

Wow, for entitlement cuts, let me guess, 10 years from now.
Those taxes go up automatically with the others. But Bohner is offering them to O?

Let me guess: Spend now, Cut our benefits later.

24 posted on 12/15/2012 8:17:53 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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One would think that Boehner would at least wait for the $100 billion in spending cuts that was promised in exchange for his last cave - the $2.5 trillion increase in the debt ceiling. Yet here we are 16 months later, and we still haven't seen a single dollar of spending reduction.

I would hope that Boehner would have the good sense to refrain from raising the debt ceiling again, considering how badly we were screwed the last time. Unfortunately, I sense that Boehner has already sold us out. Once Obamacare kicks in, we should expect a US debt of $24 trillion by the time Obama leaves office.

28 posted on 12/15/2012 8:22:33 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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Why should “millionaires” be forced into subsidizing the ‘RATS’ nanny state? Let the ‘RAT voters do it. If you’re a registered DemocRAT, your tax rate is doubled. If you work in Hollywood and are a celebrity activist, it triples. Problem solved.


31 posted on 12/15/2012 8:26:08 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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Here's the thing. Nothing Boehner "negotiates" happens without Republican votes. If the nation gets sold out, it will be by Republicans, not just Boehner. Boehner can't do anything by himself.
33 posted on 12/15/2012 8:27:54 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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I think a lot of you are missing the sub-text of the whole negotiation: Obama said "no" to an offer that, to this independent, represents an olive branch from the Republican side. Pelosi said that Obama has made concrete offers of spending cuts (which I define as a number going down, not going up less than originally anticipated) yet I've yet to see anything in writing of such an offer. Then there is the matter of all the spending cuts that were part of the "tax now, cut later" agreements over the decades.

"Fairness" is keeping your promises.

So the obvious conclusion is that Obama is not willing to negotiate in good faith. He is instead treating this as a contest of wills, instead of considering what is best for the country.

Note that Boehner hasn't done anything more than make a counter-offer. And had it smacked down hard by the other side.

What does it matter to Obama whether the line is at a quarter million or one million? Is this a backhand slap at his union support? Or does he think that the GSA schedule is too generous to upper-echelon executive-branch employees?

41 posted on 12/15/2012 8:46:42 PM PST by asinclair (B*llshit is a renewable resource.)
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Everyone on this forum knew that he would. The only question was when.


46 posted on 12/15/2012 8:53:19 PM PST by sport
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