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The U.S. Department of Agriculture can regulate how the cats are treated, judges say. The museum gets visitors from out-of-state. It charges those visitors to see Hemingway's home and the famous cats. Interstate commerce gives Uncle Sam an interest, according to the courts.

Are you @#$%ing kidding me? By this logic, the feds have jurisdiction over every business that gets at least one out-of-state customer - and how can they prove they don't? If this ruling is upheld federalism has been unilaterally abolished.

[Kitty lovers: Pix, video of the cats at source.]

1 posted on 12/10/2012 9:43:25 PM PST by Slings and Arrows
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2 posted on 12/10/2012 9:46:18 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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Papa loved his cats. Can the Feds visit this tattle-tails home to see if she cut off any tags from her mattress or pillows?

Did Key West [city fathers] ever settle the *gypsy chicken* problem *some* busybodies think they have?


5 posted on 12/10/2012 10:25:37 PM PST by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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Kittehs are a bonus to this thread about Fed gov power grab.

The Feds Can Tell Ernest Hemingway's Cats What To Do; Here's Why [Totalitarian Fed power grab]

The U.S. Department of Agriculture can regulate how the cats are treated, judges say. The museum gets visitors from out-of-state. It charges those visitors to see Hemingway's home and the famous cats. Interstate commerce gives Uncle Sam an interest, according to the courts.

By this logic, the feds have jurisdiction over every business that gets at least one out-of-state customer - and how can they prove they don't? If this ruling is upheld federalism has been unilaterally abolished.

Check out article.

Thanks, Slings and Arrows.

6 posted on 12/10/2012 10:37:41 PM PST by LucyT
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Political considerations aside, the feds must think awfully highly of themselves.

I have never met ANYONE who can tell cats what to do and get away with it!


10 posted on 12/10/2012 11:43:13 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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Bookmarked!


14 posted on 12/11/2012 1:47:42 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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from what I remember of the first trials and hearings ... the local attorney - Cara Higgins - then from the firm of Key West's Denny Crane - David Paul [W]Horan ... failed miserably to make the case that a resident who travels away from their domicile and then purchases AND consumes a product or service away from their domicile does NOT constitute an out of state consumer

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17 posted on 12/11/2012 2:29:09 AM PST by Elle Bee
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The exchange of goods, products, or any type of Personal Property. Trade and traffic carried on between different peoples or states and its inhabitants, including not only the purchase, sale, and exchange of commodities but also the instrumentalities, agencies, and means by which business is accomplished. The transportation of persons and goods, by air, land, and sea. The exchange of merchandise on a large scale between different places or communities.....The Feds are overstepping on this one a bit. Aholes.


18 posted on 12/11/2012 3:00:14 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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This is one topic where I am “Pro Choice.” I don’t want the feds regulating how we must keep our pussies!


19 posted on 12/11/2012 3:59:07 AM PST by tired&retired
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By this logic, the feds have jurisdiction over every business that gets at least one out-of-state customer

They made that power grab in the 1960s. See "Heart of Atlanta Motel"

Heart of Atlanta Motel Inc. v. United States, 379 U.S. 241 (1964)

22 posted on 12/11/2012 5:02:56 AM PST by PAR35
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“If this ruling is upheld federalism has been unilaterally abolished.”

This ruling is not necessary. Feds have had the power to regulate ANYTHING that might cross state lines for a long time.

Case in point are federal firearm and drug laws. Even firearms or drugs manufactured and used entirely within one state fall under federal law. And as we see with firearms and drugs, the feds will use one of their agencies to harass private citizens that are doing something completely legal within their own state.

The Constitution was torn up long ago. We are simply seeing the results


23 posted on 12/11/2012 5:29:17 AM PST by varyouga
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24 posted on 12/11/2012 5:53:19 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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I think what is really going on here is that in “Ol’ Frank” Roosevelt’s time, there was a massive expansion of federal power using the excuse of the Interstate Commerce Clause of the constitution. The federal courts have so perverted this, that it is now interpreted as meaning both “Inter-” and “Intra-” state commerce. Basically that the feds have the power to regulate ALL commerce.

Then, when LBJ (it was supposed to be JFK) was president, he did another massive expansion of federal power to create the welfare state, using the General Welfare Clause of the constitution as his excuse. This was most recently cited by Nancy Pelosi as a major rationale for Obamacare.

Well, the John Roberts SCOTUS decision, while accepting the concept of Obamacare, *crippled* this misuse of both the Interstate and General Welfare Clauses to advance the growth of the federal government.

However the feds, and likely many federal judges, want this abusive authority back. This suggests that there may soon be a whole surfeit of petty cases, like this one, that federal judges will use these extremely misinterpreted constitutional clauses to justify, to “rebuild them in precedent”.

To further the expansion of federal power far beyond what it is today.


25 posted on 12/11/2012 6:13:22 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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Six toes?

Our furniture looks bad enough with a five-toed cat.


27 posted on 12/11/2012 6:44:05 AM PST by moovova
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Cats aren’t dumb. They’ll find a new palace if the current one isn’t treating them as royally as they think they should be treated. If fifty of the them are at the museum, then they’re being treated fine. Case closed and tax dollars saved. The judge should assign 10 years of poop patrol to that ding bat who brought the charges.


28 posted on 12/11/2012 6:55:58 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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As for the cats, they're not commenting. We have our doubts, though, that they'll do what the law says. They're cats.

There is always a solution.


29 posted on 12/11/2012 7:17:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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This thread lacks a 6-toed cat pic... Cody, feet
30 posted on 12/11/2012 7:44:12 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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Wickard v. Filburn: like herpes, the gift that keeps on giving.


31 posted on 12/11/2012 7:49:32 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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Good news for those who played with plastic models of polydactyls when they were kids—the asteroid didn’t kill them all off after all.


32 posted on 12/11/2012 8:45:18 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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We lost the Commerce Clause argument back in the 1930's. FDR had the Supreme Court so cowed with the "packing the court" threat that they never opposed him, and made many insane decisions. The Commerce Clause was hyper-inflated so as to hand the FedGov the entire nation in Wickhard v Filburn (1942), where farmer Filburn, growing wheat for consumption of his own cattle on his own farm, was found to still be under federal regulation (there were growing quotas back then thanks to the 1938 "Agricultural Adjustment" Act) because it was somehow "in interstate commerce", despite not crossing state lines (nor even property lines), nor entering into commerce (since it was not sold to anyone).

Using their logic (that since it still affected the national totals when looked at in the aggregate with everyone else that might do it, it was therefore still under Federal control), the Commerce Clause could now be applied to anything at any time.

34 posted on 12/11/2012 8:55:39 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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