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Prosecutor: Zimmerman trying to 'co-opt the mantle of victimhood' from Trayvon Martin
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | December 10, 2012 | Jeff Weiner

Posted on 12/10/2012 12:36:19 PM PST by Uncle Chip

Edited on 12/10/2012 2:31:37 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

In a blistering response to a recent filing by George Zimmerman's defense team, prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda accuses the second-degree murder defendant of attempting "to co-opt the mantle of victimhood for himself."

Zimmerman's legal team had asked Circuit Judge Debra Nelson to force an attorney for the family of Trayvon Martin, the Miami Gardens teen shot by Zimmerman Feb. 26 in Sanford, to turn over a recorded interview of a witness described as the teen's girlfriend.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Uncle Chip
Okay.

I've read a couple of the State's responses to motions filed by Zimmerman's attorney. I decided to stop when I came across this statement in the State's Response to Defendant's Motion to Take Additional Deposition:

"[Zimmerman] then followed Trayvon Martin even though he was told by the SPD operator not to follow the Victim."

What the dispatcher actually said when Zimmerman said he was following Martin was:

"OK we don't need you to do that."

The City of Sanford has stated in writing that the dispatcher's statement was not an order.

Nobody ever told Zimmerman not to follow Martin, yet the prosecutors repeat this lie in pleadings.

21 posted on 12/10/2012 1:25:20 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Uncle Chip


22 posted on 12/10/2012 1:25:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Uncle Chip
In a blistering response to a recent filing by George Zimmerman's defense team, prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda accuses the second-degree murder defendant of attempting "to co-opt the mantle of victimhood for himself."

Regardless of my thoughts on the specific case, I would find this comment unprofessional at best. The prosecutor's job is to select the appropriate charge for an alleged crime, and to present the evidence truthfully in order to prove the allegations based on evidence. Playing public relations games is, to put it mildly, disgustingly inappropriate.

Further, when the defense argument is based on self-defense, the defense is supposed to take on "the mantle of victimhood". If Trayvon Martin threw the first punch, and it looks like he threw the first dozen or more punches, then George Zimmerman was the victim, and it is entirely appropriate for him to take on "the mantle of victimhood". If George Zimmerman was in danger of death or serious bodily harm, then it was appropriate for him to shoot his attacker in order to stop the threat. If not, then it is the prosecutor's job to (despite a complete absence of reliable witnesses for that assertion) prove that Zimmerman attacked Trayvon Martin and that Zimmerman was not in danger of death or serious bodily harm when he shot Trayvon Martin - and to prove both in a court of law, not on some talk show. I hope this prosecutor will lose his job, be sued for everything he has, and then be prosecuted for criminal misconduct.

23 posted on 12/10/2012 1:27:30 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: SkyDancer

“New word to add the English lexicon: he or she has been “Duked” or “we’re gonna “Duke” you” -”

I think they already added, “Being Trayvinn’ed”


24 posted on 12/10/2012 1:28:07 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You cant bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Mmmm, still not as catchy as being “Duked” - “OMG!!! I’ve been Duked!” - see how that works? Being Trayvinn’ed sounds like you’ve been smacked with a food tray or something.


25 posted on 12/10/2012 1:33:23 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Hey Bernie!

Is THAT your job?

Controlling the distribution of “Mantles of Victimhood”?

Or, are you worried that your prosecution is politically motivated, and substantively unfounded under the law, and the rules of evidence?


26 posted on 12/10/2012 1:34:49 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Scoutmaster

That prosecutor lie is also slapped down in #2 here:

http://184.172.211.159/~gzdocs/documents/1212/zimmerman_reply_to_resp_to_motion_for_deposition.pdf


27 posted on 12/10/2012 1:39:36 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

George Zimmerman is not only the victim of Trayvon Martin, he is also the victim of the State of Florida, the political hack republican Angelo Corey, and the cowardly republican Governor Rick Scott.

Florida republicans are a particularly yellow breed indeed.


28 posted on 12/10/2012 1:39:49 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Pollster1
Further, when the defense argument is based on self-defense, the defense is supposed to take on "the mantle of victimhood".

Zactly --

29 posted on 12/10/2012 1:43:29 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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Does Bernie trust Benjamin Crump enough to make the requested representations in paragraph 2 below:

http://184.172.211.159/~gzdocs/documents/1212/zimmerman_reply_to_states_response_to_motion_to_compel.pdf

or will he try to weasel out of it in court tomorrow.

Developing .....


30 posted on 12/10/2012 1:54:29 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Well DUH!
His claim from the beginning is self defense which would make him the victim.
A good deal of the evidence actually supports that claim


31 posted on 12/10/2012 1:54:29 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Uncle Chip

Disbar these political witchhunters


32 posted on 12/10/2012 2:03:52 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Elections do have consequences, young people of America)
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To: Uncle Chip
Interesting. The state bloviates non-stop about the defense filing the motion, then proceeds to quietly deliver the object the motion requests. De La Ronda knows he got his tit caught in a wringer, and he’s frantically looking for someone to blame for it.

Playing to the crowd, trying to polute the jury pool... not going to work.

33 posted on 12/10/2012 2:06:45 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Uncle Chip
Hey,Bernie...

plus

equals NOT GUILTY!

34 posted on 12/10/2012 2:08:15 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: Uncle Chip

Instead of the prosecutor looking at the case from the standpoint of wanting “justice” to be done, they have become so immersed in the media circus that they believe they have too much at stake to lose if they do not prosecute Zimmerman AND find him guilty.


35 posted on 12/10/2012 2:19:05 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Williams

The prosecution gave them one the was barely understandable, and had multiple edits. They’re getting busted for that, rightly. The defense is entitled to the whole thing, or witness eight needs to go in the round metal file.


36 posted on 12/10/2012 2:19:20 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: dblshot

It’s been a while, but I seem to recall “profiling” being one of the elements of second degree murder. He’s hoping that if he keeps repeating it often enough....


37 posted on 12/10/2012 2:23:33 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Rules please:

Can we use George Z and T Martin.

I’m sick of seeing the victim as last name only and the thug as first name.


38 posted on 12/10/2012 2:31:54 PM PST by bicyclerepair ( >-> Zombies eat brains. >-> 50% of FL is safe.)
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To: Uncle Chip; All

BernieDLR is Tobias Funke playing prosecutor. He wants to be the analrapist for GZ

GZ is the victim in this case...as he was attacked by Trayvon


39 posted on 12/10/2012 2:32:06 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Uncle Chip

Per the link below, and interview with Crump, about his Dee Dee conversation is part of the state’s evidence.

I’m no lawyer, but it seems that the door is wiiiide open to ask for the Dee Dee tape.....rather than just listening to Crump’s second hand (third hand?) account.


40 posted on 12/10/2012 2:32:54 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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