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To: discostu

According to the current Wiki totals, Romney came 5 million votes closer to Obama than McCain did. Romney got slightly more votes than McCain while Obama got a lot less than Obama did in 2008. Most of the former Obama voters simply appeared not to show up, but even if they all showed up for Romney, Romney still would have lost the popular vote narrowly.

Only 3 candidates have ever gotten more votes than Romney, Bush the 2nd time and Obama both times. If anything, we should be looking at what worked in 2004 for us. But even Bush’s 2004 vote total would be well behind Obama’s.

The key to Obama’s wins is that he has turned out a lot more voters than anyone else has ever been able to. That tells me it’s much less a political thing and much more of a cult of personality appeal. Higher turnout from minorities relative to whites seems to have possibly saved him this time, while in 2008 he had enough white support that it really didn’t matter.

2012:
Obama: 65,392,680
Romney: 60,727,863

2008:
Obama: 69,498,516
McCain: 59,948,323

2004:
Bush: 62,040,610
Kerry: 59,028,444


69 posted on 12/06/2012 3:24:10 PM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: JediJones

All modern politics is cult of personality. And that’s been one of our weaknesses lately, the guys we’re putting forth don’t have a personality. Romney is a white bread guy with a hard liberal background, easy for Dems to cast as “the enemy” and completely unexciting for what’s supposed to be his conservative base. The fact that he managed pull down 60 million votes is a sign of how many people just wanted to vote against Obama, but Romney never had a message, he never had a point to hammer home, he never had a counter attack. And a lot of that is because he had nothing to counter on, when the same group of advisers wrote both candidates signature legislation the challenger has nothing to run on.


94 posted on 12/07/2012 7:24:02 AM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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