Posted on 12/03/2012 4:18:35 AM PST by Kaslin
What are you talking about, being pushed out of the workforce because of the feminization of it?
Some guy getting fired for pinching his secretary’s butt?
At least in some states, the workman’s comp cheats know that they might get busted if they’re not very careful. Moving disability benefits to the federal level, making them effectively permanent and then doing nothing to police the system is just about the perfect recipe to attract fraud.
My personal experience w/people sucking off the government teat, is with women who are able-bodied thirty-somethings. Maybe it’s a regional thing with men being on the dole in more urban areas and women being more rural or suburban.
Have seen many cons over the years, usually with those in govt offices collaborating to assist women in maximizing their benefits. Imagine receiving 1100.00/month for carpal tunnel, backaches, or fibromyalgia. You just have to be breathing to receive income for life.
Once the unemployment insurance (insurance?) runs out, apply for Social Security Disability and once you get approved, you are set until Social Security kicks in at age 62. A few side jobs off the books and you can live pretty damn well.
When I was younger, I looked down on these people and prided myself in never drawing a dime from the government at any level. I paid for my own disability insurance and used it twice over approximately 40 years for a broken knee and back surgery. Now in my 70s, I realize I was an idiot. I should have collected as much as I could have scammed the system for.
There is no longer any stigma to living on the dole. In fact most living on the dole live one hell of a lot better than I do. Honor, honesty, integrity and self reliance are no longer a hallmark of Americans. I do grieve for my lost America.
If you ‘get’ to watch any daytime idjit tube, you can notice the amount of lawyers SPECIALIZING in SSDI....
Even got ‘Denny Crane’ hawking for them...
This is the same ‘class group’ that was swamped with BO ads in the afternoon - to capitalize on the ‘jerry springer/maury povich’ crowd, now overrun with Dr’s??????
(I just waste my time and efforts on the “Judge” shows), which, by the way, are becoming springerish, guess due to the fact that when they had 3 or 4 it wasn’t to bad but has blossomed into another ‘industry’.
Unless you are mentally ill, druggie, pot head, booze addict you can expect a FOUR year wait and a lawyer. My advice to those who really need it is get the lawyer first!
I had a man in my Sunday School class on the heart transplant list, took him 4 years and a lawyer to get his disability. We at the church helped keep his family afloat and his wife went to work. A year later he had his transplant, when cleared to go back to work, a very different kind than he had, but work non the less, he went off disability.
Then you have those who are marginally Downs, they can’t really work, but can take care of themselves with supervision and a constant routine. I have a good friend like this, sweetness 40 year old 14 year old in the world. She could not work if she wanted to.
Those getting disability for drugs, booze, supposed mental illness etc should not be getting it, but there are truly people who do need it. This man was one of them, and he did the correct thing and got off as soon as he was cleared to go back to work. Lisa will never be able to work, not only is she Downs, but has other health issues as well, and she just lost her primary care giver her mom, now she is in a group home that over sees that she is safe and takes her meds when due or she would forget them.
Some are speculating that the sudden rise in SSDI claims and the looming end of unemployment benefits are related.
I always thought the 99 weeks was just to keep the population complacent until after the elections anyway, and a very expensive way to kick the can down the road. Had Obama not been reelected, the jump in people headed toward NINJA (No Income No Job no Assets) would have fallen on a Republican POTUS' watch.
How many men over 50 can’t find work just because of their age? But a woman especially a minority fulfills 2 federal requirements, while the white male age 50+ does not fulfill diddly.
I never could figure out why someone with a weelchair was given a parking spot closer to the store entrance than somone who has to walk all the way.
I developed a blood clot in my thigh in 2006. I had to argue with my doc, but he got me an ultrasound set up at a clinic in the big town. The tech asked me if I was working (yes) and told me he saw a lot of people who came in practically begging him to find something wrong with them so they could get on disability. When he got done with the test he told me I had a 14” long blood clot in my leg. (no kidding? that explains this PAIN). I got 2 weeks off while I self administered Heparin shots in my midsection (no insurance).
I also know someone who is deaf that has been trying to get on it now for 4 years. Nada. They have been struggling to find work. Nada. But the girlfriend of a guy I know waltzed through to get hers. She told me all she did was “try” to kill herself. There is nothing wrong with her that a swift kick in the *** wouldn’t cure.
“I know and have known several of men like this they can hunt ,fish and do all kinds of fun things. But it is to painful to do any type of work.”
Sounds like a friend’s ex husband. I think he’s allergic to work. But come hunting/fishing season and softball season he’s out in the field.
Milking it like a baby calf.
No, a woman over 50 is actually a two-fer threat for a bias claim—seen as a bigger risk.
Anyone over 50 costs more on the company’s health insurance, too.
Since then, the door has been opened for the depressed (who in their right mind wouldn't be bummed that Duh-1 is getting another go-round?), the addicted, alcoholics, etc. most of which can be claimed with little evidence, and which seems to get a fast-track in.
I don’t know if I am in my right mind, but I would probably be happier if I wasn’t so angry all the time. ;-)
EXCERPT Two former LIRR workers pleaded guilty to participating in a massive pension scam, in which hundreds of LIRR pensioners are believed to have bilked the agency of $1 billion by falsely claiming disabilities when they retired.
The two LIRR retirees are both cooperating in the ongoing probe of the scheme, which allegedly involved doctors vouching for retirees bogus disability claims, according to court records.
Parlante, 60, of Oyster Bay, LI, agreed to pay back nearly $295,000 he had received in fraudulent disability benefits. Stavola, 54, of Massapequa Park, agreed to pay back about $160,000 in benefits he did not deserve.
Prosecutors claim retirees fraudulently boosted their annual benefits by falsely claiming to be disabled when they filed for early retirement. Two doctors charged in the case allegedly signed off on the bogus diagnoses, which enhanced the retirees regular pensions.
Authorities have suggested that up to 1,600 LIRR retirees may have been involved in the scheme. Surveillance of many of the 32 retirees who were criminally charged showed them doing strenuous exercise after claiming to be too hurt to continue working.
Though Parlante claimed to be suffering from neck, back and other pain, the former conductor worked a hefty 1,150 hours in overtime in the two years before he retired which inflated his pension benefits. After retiring in 2004, Parlante was spotted on undercover video shoveling large amounts of snow at his house after a heavy snowfall in 2011, according to a criminal complaint.
Stavola, who had worked as an electrician before retiring in 2008, falsely claimed to be suffering from a back injury when he filed for the disability retirement benefits.
Because of the huge scope of the alleged fraud, authorities offered up to 1,600 retirees an amnesty program in which they would avoid potential prosecution if they admitted falsely claiming to be disabled and forwent future disability payments. As of last month, just before the deadline, just 44 had been accepted into it, according to court records. ####
You can’t be serious. *rme*
“Then there are those of us that did 20+ years in the military, served in the sandbox, retired, and collect no disability even though it is painful to walk.”
You are an honorable person. I keep encountering military personnel that when approaching retirement, attempt to get their disability rating jacked up really high. Which is not bad IF it is trully a service related condition. However, I see men and women that successfully claim disability for illnesses that ARE NOT the result of military service. For instance, claiming diabetes when you have a family history doesn’t wash in my mind. Just because you are on AD when the condition manisfested does not mean it is the result of military service. Many....many other medical conditions that are NOT related to military service get retiring personnel disability.
I am not sure this is really honest...but I don’t want to come across being anti-military retirees. I myself will soon be a “retired” reservist.
That’s too logical, fred. You’ll never get a check that way. (8^D)
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I really doubt it.
Like their “master” (Satan), the left takes anything intended for beneficience and turns it upside down so that those who really need it can’t get it, whilst those who are cheating the system have no impediments placed before them.
All “social welfare” programs end up this way.
One thing I’m sure everyone has noticed is the dramatic increase in handicapped spots. This is because every “gamer” and his dog has a handicapped tag, so those who really need to park closer can’t find a spot that isn’t taken up by a gamer. The only way to accomodate this is to increase the number of spots.
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