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Mediation between Hostess and bakery union fails
AP ^ | 11/20/12

Posted on 11/20/2012 7:01:36 PM PST by Jean S

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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

And we thought the government couldn’t force us to participate in the market economy either.

In the Obamugabe era, the bankruptcy court will do as told. I’ll be very surprised if Hostess closes.


41 posted on 11/21/2012 5:27:07 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: Jean S

So the union would rather that it’s members be out of jobs completely than have jobs with a paycut? Especially in this economy?


42 posted on 11/21/2012 5:36:10 AM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Drango
is the union retarded or what?

I,d like to take this time to wish all of you union thugs and your famalies a very Mary Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year.

43 posted on 11/21/2012 6:02:30 AM PST by dearolddad
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To: Pinkbell

The dons of the union crime families make the decisions, and they still have their jobs. They couldn’t care less about the actual workers.


44 posted on 11/21/2012 6:07:08 AM PST by Aegedius (Veni, vidi, icked-kay utt-bay.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

It is inevitable they close...

Most people don’t eat that crap.

It is overpriced and devoid of nutrition.

A lot of the baked goods market is falling into the abyss because of dietary changes.

Some judge ordering them to stay in business won’t change a thing.


45 posted on 11/21/2012 6:18:24 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Jean S
What I'd like to see is some Republican leaders (oxymoron I know) publicly bash the unions DAILY for destroying these jobs. They prefer instead to let the unions control the message talking about how the money hungry vulture capitalists plundered the company and ruined these poor workers lives. Our political consultants are idiots.

We are at political and cultural war with these people and we have to use every tactic in the book to expose them. Please, no more Mr. Nice Guy, kick them in the teeth instead! Figuratively speaking of course...

46 posted on 11/21/2012 7:43:16 AM PST by Reagan is King
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To: Jean S

What’s needed is to give the workers the option of de-certifying the union by secret ballot, and just going back to work.


47 posted on 11/21/2012 9:13:09 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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Have you donated yet?


48 posted on 11/21/2012 10:06:40 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Maudeen

Don’t worry... as long as we have politicians in this country we will never run out of Ding Dongs!


49 posted on 11/21/2012 10:44:11 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Democrats are evil. Republicans are stupid.)
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To: Jean S

A WSJ editorial today claimed that human resources costs for the bakers are not out-of-wack at Hostess, and not the big operartions cost factor sapping Hostess revenue as much as the work rules of the Teamsters Union (requires anyone BUT NOT the driver be part of loading a truck and some products cannot be assigned to the same trucks - increasing how many employees and how many truck routes it takes to get Hostess products distributed). And the Teamsters accepted their agreement with Hostess, but that agreement did not much change those work rules (Hostess couldn’t get ‘em changed), leaving only the bakers compensation on the table.

It was also said that most of Hostess Teamsters Union drivers were not altogether worried about a Hostess total failure - that union seniority would get them bumped (over existing or new drivers) into Teamsters driver jobs in other companies with Teamsters contracts, while such prospects were not as likely for the bakers.

I am not saying the WSJ oped has the whole story, but that it does present the whole story with information not given much play when “blaming the bakers union” was the only story. I think the real issues are more complex than that.


50 posted on 11/21/2012 10:51:46 AM PST by Wuli
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To: donmeaker

Actually we place a fixed amount of sugar that can be imported into the U.S. That is a quota not a tariff.
If we had a tariff on sugar, the US government would collect the tariff (tax). As it is, the people who own the quota benefit; they sell their sugar to us for at least double the world price.


51 posted on 11/21/2012 11:56:35 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Jean S

UNION VICTORY:
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/11/16/business/maines-striking-hostess-workers-say-companys-collapse-a-strong-message-of-union-resolve/


52 posted on 11/21/2012 2:54:26 PM PST by gsan
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To: Jean S

UNION VICTORY:
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/11/16/business/maines-striking-hostess-workers-say-companys-collapse-a-strong-message-of-union-resolve/


53 posted on 11/21/2012 2:54:39 PM PST by gsan
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To: Jean S

I guess the Twinkie dies as a result of, YET ANOTHER, demand for employer-paid PET HEALTH INSURANCE. Unions Suck.


54 posted on 11/21/2012 6:55:45 PM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
A lot of the baked goods market is falling into the abyss because of dietary changes.

I wonder about that. The national obesity rate is still rising. Perhaps folks are switching to other high calorie foods disguised as "healthy choice."

55 posted on 11/22/2012 5:59:41 AM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: Maine Mariner

Thanks for explaining that. I guess Opium works in a similar way.


56 posted on 11/26/2012 11:40:24 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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