Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Translation: We were always in favor of Obamacare, but we had to wait until after the election to admit it. And even if Romney won, we would have had some excuse to implement it.
1 posted on 11/19/2012 10:38:18 PM PST by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: nickcarraway

You’re right. I suspected that all along.


2 posted on 11/19/2012 10:40:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

OMG ! Have even MORE kneecaps been threatened ???


3 posted on 11/19/2012 10:40:42 PM PST by PraiseTheLord (economic civil war ?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

I have to wonder if the 50 States desiring to secede from the District of Criminals will cause them to re-think their position?


4 posted on 11/19/2012 10:52:34 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

Time for a recall effort on Governor Scott.

It is time to get almighty tough with these traitors.


6 posted on 11/19/2012 10:59:18 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”Though the feds will pay 100 percent of the cost of the new enrollees, that will drop to 90 percent by 2020. Scott has said the state can't afford the expansion of Medicaid, which state analysts have pegged at about $1 billion but which Scott insists is likely to be higher. Scott also is seeking federal approval to put the state's existing Medicaid patients into managed care — like HMOs — under a cost-cutting proposal passed by the 2011 Legislature. “Statewide Medicaid managed care is one way we can act immediately to encourage more competition.”

Good thing Republicans took over the house so they could make sure that this is funded.

7 posted on 11/19/2012 11:01:26 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

Economic illiterates and gutless pansies. Republican politicians hard at work...


11 posted on 11/19/2012 11:43:15 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway
That's only the beginning. If the Feds can set up a health insurance exchange in any state, what else will they claim to have the authority to set up?

A car insurance exchange (car accidents adversely affect your health); an exchange for federally mandated carbon credits (EPA), because carbon is bad for your health; an exchange for EPA and USDA approved organic food providers; an exchange for federally approved churches that perform 'gay marriages' and dole out free contraceptives; etc...

16 posted on 11/20/2012 12:40:50 AM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

Rick Scott has never been in favor of it, thats absurd.


22 posted on 11/20/2012 2:27:42 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

I hope that all of the statists that brought us 0bamacurse choke to death on it.


25 posted on 11/20/2012 2:36:24 AM PST by windsorknot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

Epic cave.


29 posted on 11/20/2012 3:39:50 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

This is going to be a total disaster.


30 posted on 11/20/2012 3:49:27 AM PST by GnL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway
It is time to move on from the republican party. By 2016, they will be out of the closet, gay, abortion loving, fudge packing, gun grabbing, big government,high taxing, private property seizing tyrants... they are today but they are going public in 2013.

LLS

31 posted on 11/20/2012 4:47:16 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

The Republican Party is the party of spineless, weak kneed politicians who will sell out in a heartbeat.


32 posted on 11/20/2012 5:13:56 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

The Republican Party is the party of spineless, weak kneed politicians who will sell out in a heartbeat.


33 posted on 11/20/2012 5:14:04 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

They are Pubbies.
They fold.
That is what they do.
It is their nature.
They prefer being the minority, because being the majority is just too much stress.
And as the minority, they still get stuff.


34 posted on 11/20/2012 5:16:48 AM PST by TomGuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

We did not win the Senate, and we did not win the Presidency, and the law was already passed prior to the republican takeover of the House.

Here is what will happen.

First, big business was always the driver for Obamacare. They wanted out from under the huge expense and huge regulatory and man-hour requirements of providing health care for workers. There’s really no reason your employer should be providing your health care any more than they should be providing your car insurance.

They thought they wanted a clean business relationship of employer/employee. They think it will be better in the long run to pay extra taxes, fees, penalties or to find end-runs around Obamacare, such as employees working 29 hours or less and being part-time.

Therefore, with their extensive entanglement with governments local, state, and national, they will bring recalcitrant governments to heel until they get their wish of a European style company. So, expect governors and legislatures to cave.

What they also realize is that the expense is great. Following the European model, they will support calls for a Value Added Tax that will provide additional funds to government.

With all that in the book, they will use Germany as their model government, a government that values business, achievement, and tradition. Germany survives on quality goods with worldwide appeal, with tight labor laws, and with an acceptance of a meritocracy-based class system. It even elects occasion leaders who are “conservative”, meaning finacial conservatives.

So, look to Germany. I’m fairly convinced it’s the model being pursued by insiders, both republican and democratic.

In many ways, it’s a lenient society, but in others it is very restrictive.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 5:22:57 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

The only way Obamacare will lower medical costs is by imposing rates.

Meanwhile college aid only pushes up the price of higher education at universities with multibillion dollar endowments.


43 posted on 11/20/2012 6:22:14 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

not counting the startup costs the annual cost average is $74 million. For that money you could provide insurance to 12,000 people for about $500/month. A family of 5 only pays about $1200-1400/month for a top rated plan.

At $250/month/pp you’d give the same policy to 24,000 people. Wouldn’t it just be easier to fix the regulatory side without spending any money at all?

Why is the solution getting insurance, instead of increasing competition and access while lowering prices? We’re looking at the wrong end of the elephant.


45 posted on 11/20/2012 7:10:44 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

The ruling elite are confirming that liberty can be trumped by a clamoring mob.


48 posted on 11/20/2012 9:00:46 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: nickcarraway

Whatever happened to the plan to take over the house and defund obamacare? Oh, I remember. That went away just like “fixing the GOP from the inside” went away.


51 posted on 11/20/2012 9:56:28 AM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson