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The Liberal Gloat
New York Times ^

Posted on 11/17/2012 10:55:00 PM PST by oneprolifewoman

Back in 2011, the Obama White House earned some mild mockery for its “win the future” slogan. But now that the president has been re-elected, the liberal conventional wisdom is that the Democrats have done just that — that Republicans are now Radio Shack to their Apple store, “The Waltons” to their “Modern Family,” a mediocre Norman Rockwell to their digital-age mosaic.

Maybe it’s too soon to pierce this cloud of postelection smugness. But in the spirit of friendly correction let me point out some slightly more unpleasant truths about the future that liberalism seems to be winning.

Liberals look at the Obama majority and see a coalition bound together by enlightened values — reason rather than superstition, tolerance rather than bigotry, equality rather than hierarchy. But it’s just as easy to see a coalition created by social disintegration and unified by economic fear.

Are Democrats winning Hispanics because they put forward a more welcoming face than Republicans do — one more in keeping with America’s tradition of assimilating migrants yearning to breathe free? Yes, up to a point. But they’re also winning recent immigrants because those immigrants often aren’t assimilating successfully — or worse, are assimilating downward, thanks to rising out-of-wedlock birthrates and high dropout rates. The Democratic edge among Hispanics depends heavily on these darker trends: the weaker that families and communities are, the more necessary government support inevitably seems.

Likewise with the growing number of unmarried Americans, especially unmarried women. Yes, social issues like abortion help explain why these voters lean Democratic. But the more important explanation is that single life is generally more insecure and chaotic than married life, and single life with children — which is now commonplace for women under 30 — is almost impossible to navigate without the support the welfare state provides.

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I think this writer makes a good point about how social stability seems to be an important ingredient to economic success.
1 posted on 11/17/2012 10:55:05 PM PST by oneprolifewoman
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To: oneprolifewoman

It would be if not for the lies.


2 posted on 11/17/2012 10:59:13 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: oneprolifewoman

Liberals will gloat all the way to the bankrupt.


3 posted on 11/17/2012 11:01:22 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: oneprolifewoman

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2960746/posts


4 posted on 11/17/2012 11:05:52 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: oneprolifewoman

[. . . social stability seems to be an important ingredient to economic success.]

Carl Jung once referred to this as the “protective wall of the human community.”


5 posted on 11/17/2012 11:07:20 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: oneprolifewoman

I’m not sure who this Douhat guy is but I rather like people (both conservative and liberal) who hold their own to account. Seems like a pretty rare quality these days. Most people just want to attack the other side. And yes, I thought this article was very thoughtful.


6 posted on 11/17/2012 11:19:46 PM PST by FreeFromWhat
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To: oneprolifewoman

Gloating’s fine. But, I’ll always have the last laugh because I don’t have to face every day as a complete idiot.


7 posted on 11/17/2012 11:40:11 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: oneprolifewoman; reaganaut1
Not bad edirorial, posted too late

New York Times ^ | November 17, 2012 | Ross Douthat( Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:41:12 PM by reaganaut1)

8 posted on 11/17/2012 11:44:04 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: oneprolifewoman; reaganaut1
OPPS try

The Liberal Gloat(New York Times ^ | November 17, 2012 | Ross Douthat. Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:41:12 PM by reaganaut1

9 posted on 11/17/2012 11:46:36 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: oneprolifewoman

The comments are stunning—unless one spends a lot of time with progs. I don’t. Talk about darkened intellects. These people are denizens of Hell—they just haven’t died yet.


10 posted on 11/18/2012 12:00:14 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: oneprolifewoman

I grew up with this fishwrap of a paper. I now buy it on Sundays (with cash, or they hammer me with solicitation as they are desperate for sales), just for the crossword - ice to have in magazine form. The rest sits undisturbed in my bugout stash of necessities.

This article sounds a few paragrphs in, can’t read anymore lest nausea set in prior to bedtime, like it’s the liberal guilty gloat. They cannot be truly pleased and they are particularly mortified regarding the Republican on challenge position.


11 posted on 11/18/2012 1:04:03 AM PST by stanne
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Winning” - wasn’t that the attitude that Charlie Sheen took when he finally parted ways for good and all with “Two and a Half Men”, Chuck Lorre, and Lee Aronsohn?

That was never a comfortable fit for anybody involved, and it only got worse over time.

Ultimately, there are no permanent “winners” or “losers” - there is only gloating and being chastened. Only one of these two states lends itself to a learning experience.

“Winners” learn nothing, and inevitably let their guard down.


12 posted on 11/18/2012 1:41:22 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: oneprolifewoman

Can`t disagree with what the author is saying. When the familial cohesion is absent, something is going to fill the gap, and that something tends to be government. Many single women regard government as husband and provider, thus bringing up children who see it as a surrogate father.

With trends as they are heading, this is only going to increase.


13 posted on 11/18/2012 2:32:49 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: oneprolifewoman
social stability seems to be an important ingredient to economic success.

This is to at least some extent a chicken-egg situation.

Social stability is a lot more difficult to achieve when struggling economically.

14 posted on 11/18/2012 3:11:59 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Gloating’s fine.

But, I’ll always have the last laugh because I don’t have to face every day as a complete idiot

I like that because it is true.

15 posted on 11/18/2012 3:14:17 AM PST by TYVets
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To: Sherman Logan

There is no talk of an economic engine in the new world order. It’s because money comes from somewhere unknown, like an allowance from your parents.


16 posted on 11/18/2012 3:47:34 AM PST by Thebaddog (Obama won, we lost)
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To: oneprolifewoman

Eric Harley from Red Eye Radio makes this point too. He says that one of the primary reasons that democrats win these elections is because of fear. People will nod their head in agreement to each and every conservative point you make. But when they go into the voting booth they vote for democrats. Because during bad economic times, they feel they need ‘big government’ to care for them. And the democrats are FOR big government, republicans are against it. (at least they say they are)

These are the ones who dont presently feel that they are a part of the 47%. But they want to know that big momma will be there to protect them when they do become a part of it. There’s not much you can do about this mentality. I am in agreement with some folks who say it’s best to let it all go to greece. Because folks will not understand the failure of this model until they feel the pain.


17 posted on 11/18/2012 3:52:48 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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"There is no talk of an economic engine in the new world order. It’s because money comes from somewhere unknown, like an allowance from your parents."

I agree. We get to prove that liberalism won't work.
It will be painful for almost everybody.

18 posted on 11/18/2012 4:00:46 AM PST by DeaconRed (The moochers and freeloaders won. America lost. We need to factor out the ZERO.)
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To: DeaconRed

Tweaking tag line


19 posted on 11/18/2012 4:02:35 AM PST by DeaconRed (The moochers and freeloaders won. America lost. We need to subtract a ZERO.)
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To: oneprolifewoman

The mind of the ultimate political, ‘moderate’ suck up confessed and revealed:

“Please let me choose the popular (ie, cool) candidate and be among the winners!”

No wonder he writes for the NY Times as a fig-leaf ‘conservative’.


20 posted on 11/18/2012 4:05:17 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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