The enemy is reading this, and smiling. I would be too, if I were they.
Posted on 11/15/2012 11:56:37 AM PST by neverdem
The enemy is reading this, and smiling. I would be too, if I were they.
Be prepared for sticker shock!
“Yet you get all defensive when I criticize the NRA for endorsing him. Why is that?”
I’ll take your word that he’s a leftist, but remember the NRA is a one issue organization. They will support a pro gun lefty over an anti-gun conservative. We should challenge them on that and try to change it but trashing the organization is not going to help us keep our guns.
I’ll ask again, why do you think the NRA supported Manchin? Are they now a leftist organization?
“We gun owners find ourselves once more under attack from our own government, and half of us have nothing more to offer than bitching about the NRA.”
EXACTLY!
Takes 67 senators to ratify a treaty. Won’t happen. But Obama MAY simply pass an “executive order.”
That is a very wise way to go that way. Can you speculate if that works for buying new items?
The will also support a leftist over a pro-gun conservative.
We should challenge them on that and try to change it
Yes, we should. I don't pay dues for the purpose of supporting leftists.
but trashing the organization is not going to help us keep our guns.
The organization supporting leftists is not going to help us keep our guns either. The NRA endorsed leftist Democrat Joe Manchin for US Senate. I objected to their conduct as counterproductive and discrediting to them. They have done harm. I have not.
Are they now a leftist organization?
That they are an organization which supports leftists is an objective fact.
Look for the United Nations to stick its Leftist beak into American firearms ownership, highly increased state fees for processing permits, and for many states to seek HEAVY taxes and/or other fees placed on each and every firearm owned.
Potentially worse yet, Obama will, in all likelihood, have at least two supreme court appointments in the next four years, at which time he will nominate extreme Left wing, anti-gun, radicals who will make the Soviet praesidium look like a boy’s club.
Given the obvious Republican penchant for rolling over, spreading, and calling out, “F*ck me again, Democrats!” there may not be much resistance to Obama’s Machiavellian pressures.
To pass a treaty requires 67 senators.
And simple be ignored because of it lacks legality of congressional statutory authority and would be in violation of well a understood Constitutional right. It would be overturned.
Guess group hysterics don't work on me. Damn free thinker... ;-)
“And simple be ignored because of it lacks legality of congressional statutory authority and would be in violation of well a understood Constitutional right. It would be overturned.”
You mean like McCain Feingold, or Obamacare? Blatantly unconstitional yet upheld. And that’s before BO gets another 1 or 2 supreme court picks.
No I mean an unconstitutional executive order signed by Obama who bypassed Congress.
Then I will say to you....the NRA is wrong.
Fair enough?
Pray for good health for the not so blatant liberals on the high court.
“To pass a treaty requires 67 senators.”
Nope. Nowhere does anything require 2/3, or 67 Senators, to ratify a treaty.
Article I. Section 5.
“...and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business;” <- That’s 51 Seneators.
A quorum of the Senate is a majority of Senators: 51.
Article II. Section 2.
“[President] shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;” <- That’s 34 of those 51 Senators required for a quorum.
“Then I will say to you....the NRA is wrong.” Fair enough?”
Perfectly fair. I don’t agree with all my friends on everything, but they are still my friends. There are limits though.
But when it comes down to it...they will support Dims. WHY?
Why do you think over 60 rats sent a letter telling Holder to pound sand as far as a renewal of a so called "assault weapon" ban in March 2009? If the NRA supports a rat who solid on the Second Amendment, then that's OK with me. That's all I expect of the NRA, taking care of the Second Amendment.
“Do some research for yourself ... find out what sort of Senator Joe Manchin has been. Cure your ignorance, so that you’re capable of having an intelligent conversation.”
Here is the NRA endorsement. It sheds some light on why they endorsed Manchin:
Fairfax, Va.— The National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) is endorsing Governor Joe Manchin for election to the U.S. Senate this November.
“Joe Manchin earned the NRA-PVF endorsement by supporting our Second Amendment rights and hunting heritage,” said Chris W. Cox, chairman of NRA-PVF. “West Virginia’s gun owners and hunters appreciate his commitment to protecting their right to keep and bear arms.”
Gov. Manchin is a lifelong hunter and sportsman and as West Virginia’s governor, he signed Castle Doctrine legislation into law to restore the right to self-defense in a person’s home and property along with legislation to increase reciprocity for right-to-carry permit holders in West Virginia. He also signed Emergency Powers legislation into law that prohibits gun confiscation during states of emergency as happened after Hurricane Katrina; No-Net-Loss of hunting lands into law that ensures adequate access to public hunting land; and a bill to prevent anti-gun New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s gun dealer entrapment schemes.
“Joe Manchin’s support for individual gun ownership rights has earned him an “A” rating and endorsement from the NRA-PVF,” Cox continued. “We ask all West Virginia gun owners, hunters and NRA members to vote Joe Manchin for U.S. Senate on November 2nd.”
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