Should Texas be allowed to secede from the union?

CNN ^ | November 14th, 2012 | Jack Cafferty

[Pfesser]

Texas Gov. Rick Perry does not support a petition for the Lone Star State to secede from the union.

But a lot of people do.

The online petition asking the federal government to allow Texas to withdraw from the U.S. following President Barack Obama's reelection has nearly 100,000 signatures. It appears on a section of a White House website called “We The People" and cites economic difficulties due to the federal government's inability to cut spending.

Supporters suggest that secession would protect Texans' standard of living and "re-secure their rights and liberties."

[humblegunner]

If we decide to go, we should just go and screw getting "permission"

True that.

[IslamE]

CNN laughs at them, they love stories like this, they fuel the flames, boycott cable news!

[altsehastiin]

Secession is a human right. One does not need permission from anyone to excercise a human right.

[reg45]

Split Illinois into “Chicago” and “Real Illinois”.

[massgopguy]

The dividing of or merging of states is prohibited by the Constitution.

[uncommonsense]

"Perhaps they could leave though and annex some others!"

TxOkLa...

[Forward the Light Brigade]

Not yet—only if Obama does something stupid. Like ban guns or religion.

[Sam Gamgee]

Yes, that is the catch 22 conservatives always find themselves in. As a conservative do you stick it out in a liberal state to have a voice, or do you flee, but then leave even less conservatives in that state?

As I see it, in time, as hispanics outnumber whites in Texas, that Texas will go Democrat anyways.

[docbnj]

The idea of states seceding now is pure fantasy, and an unpleasant one, at that.

But if you wish to indulge in fantasy, why not pick some better ones? How about expelling states? I don’t know whether this is possible, but perhaps it could be done as a conspiracy.

For example, residents of NJ could secede, and then move out, leaving this sicko state alone, and inhabited only by Obama-supporting zombies. I could enjoy this fantasy for hours at a time.

Another good one: West Virginia was formed in direct violation of the Constitution, which provides that the borders and territory of a state cannot be changed without its consent. So, we get WV and VA to reunite. Presto: no more “battleground” state, but one that would have gone solidly for Romney.

Another: Force (or trick) the New England states to unite into one state, and (presto!) only two corrupt, lying, Obama-supporting senators, instead of the present 10 or 12. The Senate would be Republican.

[Pfesser]

Tell that to Virginia and West Virginia.

[bonfire]

Yep. Came back to TX after 8 years and we are surrounded by all sorts of undesirables. Not the same TX I left.

[Tau Food]

But if you wish to indulge in fantasy, why not pick some better ones? How about expelling states? I don’t know whether this is possible, but perhaps it could be done as a conspiracy.

Or, since we purchased Louisiana, we should be able to sell it. Since we already owe the Chinese a ton of money, . . . ;-)

[ejonesie22]

I find all this succession talk to be the opposite of what we should be doing. This nation belongs to those of us who honor its founders and principles. The interlopers should be driven off.

[Slings and Arrows]

Very clever!

[reg45]

The Constitution is a contract (between the sovereign states and the Federal government). The nature of the Constitution has been altered so much in the last hundred years that the Federal government has breached the contract. On that basis, each individual state (or portion thereof) should be able to declare the contract “null and void” and to establish [a] new contract or contracts.

[tentmaker]

Thus the whole Revolution [of 1775–1783] turned upon, asserted, and, in theory, established, the right of each and every man, at his discretion, to release himself from the support of the government under which he had lived. And this principle was asserted, not as a right peculiar to themselves, or to that time, or as applicable only to the government then existing; but as a universal right of all men, at all times, and under all circumstances.

BINGO!

[MHGinTN]

If they accomplish it, I’m moving to Texas, asap! ... Hurry up, Texas, kick this liar in the mouth and get out of the collapsing cesspool of progressivism.

[crosshairs]

That’s perhaps the biggest truth! Some other states need to come along so we have enough room for everyone!

Kansas-Oklahoma-Texas = KOTEX

[ilovesarah2012]

I have been saying for the past four years that we need to be divided into two separate countries. North and South. I am very serious.

[VanDeKoik]

“3. Secession is treason/unAmerican/craaaazy/for slavers only. Prior to the confederacy, there were some slaveowners who got together and seceded from their government. They were called Thomas Jefferson and George Washington. If you’re opposed to the secession of 1776, then that’s fine, you might be consistent on this issue, but if you’re one of these right-wing pundits who thinks the Declaration of Independence should be read aloud every July 4, and then says that secession is nutso, you might try actually reading that document you profess to love.”

Yeah, what is with those guys?

They wanted us to read everything from the founding fathers and oddly forget why they were FOUNDING FATHERS!

And the stuff they broke from England over were about 90% questionable and 5% made up.

And none of it compares to the many legit reasons Texas and others want to split.