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Petraeus replacement to testify CIA never requested military assistance in Benghazi (hhmmm)
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| November 15, 2012
| Ed Morrissey
Posted on 11/15/2012 6:11:48 AM PST by SE Mom
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To: Paladin2
It would seem to me that unless the State Department personnel including the Ambassador were assigned to to work temporarily under the command of the CIA there is a protocol. Three words: “Chain”, “Of”, and “Command”. IF Ambassador Stevens was assigned to work temporarily for the CIA for whatever reason, then his Chain of Command would have been directly to the CIA, but IF he was not, and was totally under the State Department, then the CIA would be off the hook for any requests by Mr. Stevens other than having been aware, and doing some communication possibly to gain approval themselves to do something in a timely manner to save those peoples lives.
It is because of this real life “Chain of Command” protocol that I believe this whole screwup belongs to the team of Obama/Hillary with Hillary running point.
As does Fast & Furious, THIS Benghazi screwup STINKS of a typical Hillary forged scenario with half-assed follow through if none at all. Hillary transforms deadly imaginings into political games, but without the extensive details she is either too lazy to forge to completion, or too incompetent to do so, thus leaves for Belize, or wherever leaving others to try to manage without her to consult.
They are scrambling to protect the Party for Hillary’s 2016 run.
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posted on
11/15/2012 6:58:58 AM PST
by
rockinqsranch
(Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
To: SE Mom
Man gets into accident.
His car is on fire, he can't get out.
He calls for help.
No help is sent.
The Emergency dispatcher gets called in to explain:
"Well, sir, he didn't ask for an ambulance, nor a fire truck, nor police, so we didn't send anyone."
Candy Crowley, George Stephanopoulis and Diane Sawyer all note the dispacher is a Democrat and sing out in perfect harmony:
"Why that makes perfect sense."
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posted on
11/15/2012 7:07:10 AM PST
by
cookcounty
("For the first time in my adult life I am not proud of my country.")
To: SE Mom
There will be legion testimony to oppose this, from people who heard the CIA plea in real time.
Morell and Obama think they have capped their leakers and whistle blowers......sorry, they have not.
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posted on
11/15/2012 7:08:11 AM PST
by
Candor7
(Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
To: rarestia; SE Mom
That communications specialist cannot hand the communication to anyone except the president, so Obama knew. He knew, he had to make a call, and he did not.
I expect Petraeus to continue to tow the line, though I hope that he will do the right thing and blow the lid sky high off Benghazi by simply and truthfully noting that POTUS declined to give the order. Of course, he'll probably try to say both things at the same time and please the WH and those seeking the truth.
Petraeus, like most generals, has been extremely politically adept. His thinking on military strategy fits in superbly with globalist NGO interests which are the de factor policy-making groups for both the Bush and Obama administrations. This is why he shot to the top of every list of top world leaders over the last decade, and the trajectory of his career is completely based on his theories. So he is entirely invested personally in the globalist, elitist, NGO agenda, though he may actually not even be aware just how much he is. The nation-building outlook, shared by others - but certainly not all - in military leadership is diametrically opposed to traditional warmaking and is undermining U.S. ability to face potential large adversaries without experiencing the enormous losses incurred when going up against those who are all too willing to sacrifice millions of their own in a horrific war of attrition. Of course, without overwhelming superiority, risks increase exponentially; not risks of policing third world countries, but risks of the difficulties associated with brutal, old-school war.
Once someone opens the pandora's box of saying the President would not give a cross-border authorization, the next logical question is why.
The answer to "why" can only point to a) afraid, b) stupid or c) globalist plot in which POTUS was tasked with not giving the cross-border authorization, either specifically for this operation or a standing order for the duration of his terms in office.
The dainty Republicans in the Senate are publicly leaving the option for b) on the table for POTUS to accept. The dainties are also, of course, doggie-paddling like crazy to try to shore up their support amongst conservatives by seeming to pounce on POTUS regarding this he-man issue.
God forbid anyone in Congress actually admits publicly that POTUS is a stooge working for the New Left under the watchful eye of his handler, Valerie Jarrett.
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posted on
11/15/2012 7:26:57 AM PST
by
PieterCasparzen
(We have to fix things ourselves.)
To: PieterCasparzen
So 2 SEALS/CIA ran at a small army and faced a certain death? BTW, a caller to WRKO this morning said they were told to stand down and they should have.
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posted on
11/15/2012 7:31:24 AM PST
by
massgopguy
(I owe everything to George Bailey)
To: SE Mom
Rush military caller says beyond shadow of doubt Obama knew about Benghazi
"He told Rush that protocol dictates that as soon as the situation room got the email about the Benghazi attack, someone marched up to the president and informed him of the attack. He says its a bald faced lie if they say otherwise. He also says that it was the president who gave the order at his 5pm meeting that day to not respond to the Libya attack in progress."
To: PieterCasparzen
"opens the pandora's box of saying the President would not give a cross-border authorization"
ValJer?
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posted on
11/15/2012 7:40:13 AM PST
by
Paladin2
To: maggief
We NEED to understand WHY Gen Hamm was fired.
If he had an order to send something into the battle then he was acting as the POTOS claims top have ordered the Military.
So WHY???
Why then does he AND the Admiral get fired?!!!!!!
They WERE executing what the President ordered them to do, but they are now arrested and demoted.
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posted on
11/15/2012 7:42:35 AM PST
by
R0CK3T
To: massgopguy
I saw some reference to these two guys sending 80 Jihadis to meet their 72 porcine virgins. Is there a media reference to that?
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posted on
11/15/2012 7:47:50 AM PST
by
Paladin2
To: SE Mom
But did they request HELP!
Were they supposed to request specific HELP?
I don’t understand. Is this more parsing of words? Of course they would have asked for help, they were under attack for hours.
To: SE Mom
There’s audio of requests for help, Hannity says.
To: SE Mom
Broadwell also confirmed that the CIA guys at the annex asked for Delta Force backup.
Now, she might have been relying on the Fox report. Or she may have had other sources of information.
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posted on
11/15/2012 8:55:48 AM PST
by
mojito
(Zero, our Nero.)
To: madison10
Sean Hannity said on both his tv and radio shows that his sources told him there were recordings of the annex guys pleading for help.
As far as I know, those recordings have never been made public and transcripts have never been released.
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posted on
11/15/2012 9:00:55 AM PST
by
mojito
(Zero, our Nero.)
To: mojito
Maybe those sources have since been silenced...
To: rockinqsranch
Thus, Hillary took full responsibility for Benghazi, and now she is in Australia as she awaits her resignation day.
State Department employees put out the first calls for help.
To: All
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posted on
11/15/2012 10:25:02 AM PST
by
Hotlanta Mike
("God only knows it's not what we would choose to do." - Lyric from Us and Them - Pink Floyd)
To: SE Mom
A bit of waterboarding should be in order, to arrive at the truth....
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posted on
11/15/2012 10:36:00 AM PST
by
Quickgun
(I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
To: SE Mom
That CIA may not have requested something does not imply that the consulate didn’t... or the embassy... or the State Department...
And if CIA HQ may not have, this doesn’t mean that CIA boots on the ground did not.....
Watch for the nuances.
But the bigger story is the four week Presidential LIE and the the Hillary LIE.
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posted on
11/15/2012 1:11:47 PM PST
by
mbarker12474
(If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
To: SE Mom
I want to know this really basic information......Has anyone asked or do they know if Obama was specifically in the “situation room” during this attack and for how long? How long into the attack did he give the order and to whom, to assist these people?
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posted on
11/15/2012 1:19:35 PM PST
by
Toespi
To: SE Mom
It’s going to take more than “unnamed sources” to take down Obama.
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posted on
11/15/2012 1:48:16 PM PST
by
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