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Romney Loss - Evangelicals "Again" Stayed Home
IFB ^ | 11/7/12

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:54 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman

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To: GlockThe Vote; timestax

Then you ARE here to pound down christians in the name of the GOP, because some of them didn’t vote for your GOP-elitist snob liberal. FR is not a GOP website. It IS an evangelical, Pro-God website. That means what you’re doing is trolling. You ain’t a conservative.

Those people who chose not to vote for your POS candidate had a right to do so, and they are more conservative than you. FR is a conservative website, not a republican website, so you should not be doing that. Would you expect Paulbots to vote against Ron Paul? Or would you go onto a Goodebot website and expect them to vote against Goode? That would be OBVIOUS trolling. Then why do you come onto a conservative website and expect them to vote against their conservative principles? It is OBVIOUS trolling.


661 posted on 11/08/2012 12:13:24 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Elsie

Who was that? Romney was my last choice.

Bigot? Lighten up. I just don’t care for the “JC will provide” crap. My car is almost out of gas, should I wait until he fills it up or get off my duff and drive to the gas station?


662 posted on 11/08/2012 12:35:55 PM PST by Fledermaus (2012: The year the Constitution died.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

And I agree that extreme shame ought to be visited upon the evangelicals who did not vote for Romney yesterday.
***Why? This is a conservative website. Berating conservatives because they didn’t vote for a librul is not conservative. It says right in the founder’s statement that we are not beholden to ANY political party; FR is not a GOP website. So stop with the bowlsheet of conservatives preferring something over another when they had no real choice. The GOP let them down. Would you expect blacks to vote for a kkk candidate? Would you go onto blackpower.com and berate them for not voting for someone antithetical to their principles? No, because such a thing is OBVIOUSLY trolling. But coming onto a conservative website and berating conservatives for not voting for their antithetical nonconservative is somehow acceptable. Bowlsheet. It’s trolling.


663 posted on 11/08/2012 12:43:38 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Ann Archy; All
AndColofornian, your percentage doesn;t matter...only the AMOUNT of Evangelicals that "bothered" to vote for the Mormon matters...or maybe they stayed home because they didn't like the OTHER cult member, Ryan, who is Catholic!!!!

More assumptions, eh, Ann Archy?

Well, thus far the best source I've found that at least provides indicators as to how many Evangelicals voted is Pew Forum's exit polls: How the Faithful Voted: 2012 Preliminary Analysis

Per Pew Forum's exit polls, were white Evangelicals a greater part of the 2012 voting block vs. 2008 and 2004? Or less?

Answer? Well, I just crunched the rough #s based upon Pew Forum's exit polls...and more -- not less -- white Evangelicals voted in 2012...than either in 2008 or 2004.

It looks like almost 31 million white Evangelicals voted in 2012; compared to about 30 million in 2008, and compared to about 26 & 1/4 million in 2004.

How did white Evangelicals compare to other voter segments...in staying home or not?

Answer: They were 24% of the voting block in 2012; 23% in 2008; 21% in 2004.

Which religious voter groups turned out significantly less in 2012? (a) OTHER white Protestants -- not Evangelicals; (b) white Catholics

Per Pew Forum white Protestants dropped from 42% of the pie in 2008 to 39% in 2012...keep in mind, tho, that the mainline denominations are "aging" & unless a Dem "resurrects" a dead voter, they don't vote from the grave...

Still, 42% of about 132,654 (2008) vs. 39% of about 128 million is a drop-off of over 4 million voters!

Also, white Catholics dropped from 19% in 2008 to 18% in 2012...Because the voter pool was smaller in 2012, that's about 2 million LESS white Catholics turning out...(I estimate a drop from just over 25 million to just over 23 million)...obviously some of them died and weren't replaced by younger Catholic voters.

664 posted on 11/08/2012 1:05:44 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: RJS1950
Oh, how so very sweet........words and words to demonstrate once again the Constitution has become your sacred document and God Almighty has been relegated to history.

pssst, mormonISM is not different than 150 years ago, they just have way better PR machines these days.

665 posted on 11/08/2012 1:27:50 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Kevmo

The electable alternative to Obama was Romney. Comparing Romney to the KKK is ridiculous.

IIRC, even the founder of this site, late in the season, said he would vote for Romney to just get rid of Obama.

Evangelicals who ignored Billy Grahams thinly veiled plea to vote for Romney ought to be ashamed.


666 posted on 11/08/2012 1:28:53 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

No deary extreme shame is on evangelicals and Christians who voted for a man who is the royalty of the SLC LDS


667 posted on 11/08/2012 1:32:47 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Are you here to pound down christians in the name of the GOP, because some of them didn’t vote for your GOP-elitist snob liberal? FR is not a GOP website. It IS an evangelical, Pro-God website. That means what you’re doing is trolling. That ain’t conservative.

Those people who chose not to vote for your POS candidate had a right to do so, and they are more conservative than you. FR is a conservative website, not a republican website, so you should not be doing that. Would you expect Paulbots to vote against Ron Paul? Or would you go onto a Goodebot website and expect them to vote against Goode? That would be OBVIOUS trolling. Then why do you come onto a conservative website and expect them to vote against their conservative principles? It is OBVIOUS trolling.


668 posted on 11/08/2012 1:35:30 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Ann Archy; All
Now that I answered your false accusations on this thread -- and we know that false accusations are relatives of those issued by the overseer of hell -- let's deal with your next accusation:

...you PURE Evangelicals who won't vote for a Mormon or a Catholic helped to DESTROY this country.

Well, guess what...at least three FREEPERs posted threads re: Mark Levin's radio content...see this one, for example: Mark Levin Gives "Unvarnished Truth" On Romney Loss

Now what did Levin have to say about Republicans like Ann Archy:

Levin: Now I hear we're called 'purists.' Conservatives are called purists. The very people who keep nominating moderates, now call us purists the way the left calls us purists. Yeah, things like liberty, and property rights, individual sovereignty, and the Constitution, and capitalism. We're purists now. And we have to hear this crap from conservatives, or pseudo-conservatives, Republicans.

Levin calls accusations like yours as "crap"...and that these comments are issued by "pseudoconservatives" like you!!!

669 posted on 11/08/2012 1:36:28 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: 1010RD; chesley; All
I’w with chesley. I vote against the Party of Satan every chance I get. Of course, that takes discernment.

Well, Mormons and Evangelicals had one thing in common per the Pew Forum exit polls...

And that is about 1 in 5 Mormons, and 1 in 5 white Evangelicals, voted for Obama.

(%-wise, there was actually more support for Romney by Evangelicals than Mormons! ... by 1%)

So...are we going to hear any lambasting of Obama-supporting Lds on this thread???

670 posted on 11/08/2012 1:41:14 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: Colofornian

I’m willing to lambast anybody that voted for Obama. and I’m an evangelical.

Stupid people belong to every race and religion.


671 posted on 11/08/2012 2:00:54 PM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: Colofornian

Obama-supporting LDS are idiots. I’m often curious when we see these polls of alleged Christians, particularly from PEW which has a radical agenda. Are the CINOs or do they really practice their religion?


672 posted on 11/08/2012 2:11:33 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

(Hey, if I recall, even Bush got 22% of the gay & lesbian vote in one of the elections...there just seems to be that 80-20 rule where 20% will buck whatever their “peer group culture” is clamoring for)


673 posted on 11/08/2012 2:14:38 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: reaganaut

So you’re the deciding vote between Diocletian and Romney to rule your country. Who do you choose?

Rule: Voting for someone else, not voting or voting for neither gives you Diocletian by default.

Hint: this is a test of discernment.


674 posted on 11/08/2012 2:18:49 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: RJS1950; Elsie; Mr Rogers
OK, add "...your right to your religious beliefs will be reduced to cold ashes". You will be persecuted and martyred for your beliefs.

Well, let's see...$millionaires like Mitt have been giving $millions to the Mormon church to slander the worldwide Christian church as Satanic, false, dead, abominable, corrupt, not joinable, apostate, etc.

And these aren't just -- as Mr Rogers implied -- sermons from the 16th & 17th centuries...

These are Lds "scriptures" -- not opinions from the pulpit...being translated in hundreds of languages around the world.

And many of these aren't generic comments about "heretics" -- but are specific in targeting Christian sects.

It's also in current Lds curricula, media & online content.

So, the Lds church has already been attacking us Christians in $millions of ways for quite some time...It's been good "preparation" for additional persecution.

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Sample of what Mitt's $millions have been paying for in reprinting Lds "scriptures":

Snapshot of Joseph Smith’s Slanderous Invectives vs. Christian Sects

Mormon Source

[Note: Most of these are Mormon ‘scriptures'. In fact, First three rows below are Lds 'scripture' & therefore cannot be rug-swept any more than a Jew might try to take three commandments off of the very tablets of stone Moses brought down from the mountain]
“...which of all the sects was right… must join NONE of them, for they were ALL WRONG… those professors were ALL CORRUPT…” Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price
...“which of all the sects was right…ALL their CREEDS were an ABOMINATION in his sight…they teach for doctrines the commandments of MEN…” Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price
Mormon church the only ‘Christ-sanctioned’ church on earth: “…the foundation of this [Mormon] church…the ONLY true and living church on the face of the whole earth” [Obvious ‘scorched earth’ implication: All other churches are false and dead] Lds “scripture” Doctrines & Covenants 1:30
Direct question asked of Joseph Smith: 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?" Answer from Lds "prophet" Joseph Smith: 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119 [Not “scripture” – but still publicly spoken by the Mormon ‘living prophet’ and published by a later Mormon ‘living prophet,’ Joseph Fielding Smith – via a publisher owned by the Mormon church – Deseret News Press, 1938]
“In 1952…the first official proselyting plan was sent to missionaries throughout the world…It included seven missionary discussions that emphasized…[four topics, one of them being]THE APOSTASY and Restoration…” [This makes it 60 years that Mormon church missionaries, now numbering 55,000, have formally emphasized in its training & door to door saturation a priority in bashing the worldwide Christian church as “apostates” (100% AWOL)] Our Heritage: A Brief History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints p. 116, 1996

675 posted on 11/08/2012 2:34:19 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: svcw

wrong.


676 posted on 11/08/2012 2:41:47 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: newgeezer
If by that, you meant to imply my inability to decipher your previous post is symptomatic of our nation's problems, I would recommend gathering additional information before passing such judgment.

I gathered that since you were up to Daniel chapter 4; then chapter 3 would have been fresh in your mind.

I haven't checked a lot of translations, so the phrase 'but if not' could be slightly different in some of them and studying would not have necessarily picked it up.


Sorry about the judging thing.There's been so much of it in this thread that some of it has rubbed off on me I guess.

677 posted on 11/08/2012 2:42:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chesley

I’m willing to lambast anybody that voted for Obama. and I’m an evangelical.
***So you’re here to pound down other christians in the name of the GOP, because some of them didn’t vote for your GOP-elitist snob liberal? FR is not a GOP website. It IS an evangelical, Pro-God website. That means what you’re doing is trolling. That ain’t conservative.

Those people who chose not to vote for your POS candidate had a right to do so, and they are more conservative than you. FR is a conservative website, not a republican website, so you should not be doing that. Would you expect Paulbots to vote against Ron Paul? Or would you go onto a Goodebot website and expect them to vote against Goode? That would be OBVIOUS trolling. Then why do you come onto a conservative website and expect them to vote against their conservative principles? It is OBVIOUS trolling. Calling them stupid is flamebaiting... and trolling. If you wanna slam conservatives for voting against your GOP statist, go to GOP.com. Then it wouldn’t be trolling.


678 posted on 11/08/2012 2:44:27 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Mr Rogers
You might want to think about what the Calvinists and Catholics did in the 1500s & 1600s, then.

Not relevant; since MORMONism makes the claim of being the copyright holder of the Restored Gospel® it should NEVER have proclaimed the things it did.

679 posted on 11/08/2012 2:44:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: x

Excellent job of parsing the differences.


680 posted on 11/08/2012 2:46:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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