Posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:54 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
Many of us could not imagine that Romney could lose this election, especially after four years of Obama’s radical Marxism and its social and fiscal consequences that America will NEVER recover from. All the hype and all the Romney rallies; it indeed looked like a sure victory for Romney except for one equation, the Evangelical vote. We here at the IFB have talked back and forth among ourselves since the RNC convention and with others also in the know; that if the Evangelical vote did not show up on Nov. 6th the jig would be up and Romney would lose big… and indeed he has.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way. The Evangelical vote consists of the TRUE social and moral conservatives of the party (i.e., the Right). Romney and the GOP also gave very little time to the Tea Party who is the heart of the grass root movement and the engine of the Party! The viewer ratings for the 2012 RNC convention were way down, some 40% and many of us- including myself - did not watch one lick of it. Why should we have? We knew what we were getting and many of us felt “diss’d” being left out as we were. That in its self should have set off warning bells to the RNC but in all honesty many of us who are Evangelicals were still going to vote for Romney holding our nose. It is our duty as Believers and an Americans to be salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and even though Romney was who he was; he was the better choice still and the lesser of the two evils for our nation. We were not going to trust in a Romney win but that a Romney win would slow down the final deterioration of our nation.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth and many have NOT forgotten it. Evangelicals felt betrayed and many did not vote for McCain in 2008 which gave Marxist Obama the victory. When you add the convention snub of Romney and the GOP that was the straw that broke the elephants back.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth.
Now we come to today, the day after the election and we once more again see that the Evangelical vote has stayed home; and in doing so have given Obama another four years to finish the job of transforming our nation and fundamentally changing our culture and way of life which includes the elimination of sound biblical Christianity. I know I am going to get a ton of hate mail for this statement, but SHAME ON YOU for sitting home and not choosing to be light and exercising your God given right to vote (Matt. 5:13-16)! I know all sides of this argument and there is still absolutely NO excuse (Matt. 5:13-16). Your self righteous pride, biblical ignorance and foolishness has open wide the door now for Christian persecution in our nation and the end of the freedoms we have for the furtherance of the Gospel. My friends, indeed the Day of the Lord is at hand, but WOE to any who seek to bring it about who call on the Name of Jesus Christ by being idol and slothful.This is NOT a sanctification matter and God will hold you accountable for hiding your light and voice.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us. I think of Samuel when all of Israel wanted a king and not the Lord (1 Sam. 8). It broke his heart and rightly so! He knew what was coming. Thus America in this election has said quite loudly that we DO NOT want the God given freedom to exercise what our Founding Fathers envisioned, which was based on the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God. In doing so we have REJECTED the Judeo/ Christian values and ideals which once made this country great. We have now as a nation fully taken on the mantle of Lawlessness and the spirit of Anti Christ as our nation’s ideology and culture.
Indeed, we as Evangelicals will now see what we must surely endure under lawless administration of Barack H. Obama and many Evangelicasl will be sifted and found wanting. That there... you can take to the bank!
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
Yeah...sermons from the mid-1800s. You might want to think about what the Calvinists and Catholics did in the 1500s & 1600s, then.
If you want to convince anyone that Mitt and other Mormons are going to kill them to save them, you’ve got a long row to hoe! Nutjob.
Very well said and thanks CC
I'm talking about religious sectarianism, and you're talking about ideological differences. I don't think Archbishop Dolan was any softer on gay marriage or abortion than evangelicals or that Rabbi Soloveichik is any less a Zionist than some Evangelical from the Bible Belt.
I'd have to say that it was unwise if the Republicans didn't include an Evangelical clergyman among their speakers -- though I suspect that some of the elected officials who spoke must have been of that persuasion -- but even if all the speakers were Evangelicals (as I am not), I wouldn't assume that the Republicans had nothing to offer me. A lot of voters would -- and have.
Or maybe -- after dealing with your mindset -- maybe I will too. Maybe from now on we should all throw fits about the fact that a political party that expresses our view on the issues doesn't have speakers who belong to our own exact religious or ethnic or demographical group.
In any event, expecting that speakers at a political convention share your political views is far different from demanding that they accept your theological convictions.
I have no issue voting for a Catholic as they are Christians, but Mormons are NOT Christians.
So for you the US Constitution is greater than God Almighty - got it.
There is a dialogue in the Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis where Screwtape is explaining politics to Wormwood that I think we see a lot of on here...
Let him begin by treating the Patriotism or the Pacifism as a part of his religion. Then let him, under the influence of partisan spirit, come to regard it as the most important part. Then quietly and gradually nurse him on to the stage at which the religion becomes merely part of the “cause”... Once you have made the World an end, and faith a means, you have almost won your man, and it makes very little difference what kind of worldly end he is pursuing. Provided that meetings, pamphlets, policies, movements, causes, and crusades, matter more to him than prayers and sacraments and charity, he is ours — and the more “religious” (on those terms) the more securely ours. I could show you a pretty cageful down here...
Sound familiar?
I’ll put down christians, paulbots, goodebots, whoever stayed home in a temper tantrum.
Those who stayed home in a fit are morons and idiots.
DITTO, Man, DITTO. They might have caused me , and many others to be laid off, (as in permanent laid off). They will have some explaining to me if I come across one who admits not voting. I will give them a f*7cking earful, and then some !
They think just because they claim to be religious and standing on some bizarre “principle” of giving obama a second term that they are immune from being called what they are - MORONS AND IDIOTS
They try to make everything about them all the time.
Do the left do this? Do the feminists, enviro marxists, lgbt, blacks, minorities, govt employees unions, or any of the other members of the left wing collection of treasonous groups ever stay home in a fit of rage?
NO ! They vote and show up!
That is a leap of illogic.
The U.S. Constitution IS more important than SOMEBODY ELSE’S denominational beliefs because it is the basis for all of our freedoms including religious freedoms.
The elections, politics, our way of life depend on adherance to the Constitutional principles of freedom. The Constitutional principles were derived from Christian religious principles; multiple denominational beliefs and not just one narrow Christian view of God. The founding fathers extended that religious freedom to ALL religions, and by default even islam which does not deserve recognition as a true religion. If Romney had was a muslim it would be an entirely different matter. Mormonism is not the same as it was 150 years ago any more than most other Christian denominations are what they were then. Quit taking the philosophy of if your hand offends God, cut it off.
You’ve got nothing and know nothing about me or what I believe so close up that orfice you spew that crap from.
Standing your ground means you’re not advancing your agenda. Stand your ground long enough and you’re surrounded.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2956400/posts?page=50#50
I’w with chesley. I vote against the Party of Satan every chance I get. Of course, that takes discernment.
Chesley - courtesy ping since your name is mentioned.
Yet you singled out evangelicals in your post. You’re offended that they don’t vote for your GOP candidate, so you come here on a non-GOP website and say F’m to the people who are the core of conservatism, the core of this NON GOP website. That makes you a troll
As I said, you are here to pound down christians in the name of the GOP, because some of them didn’t vote for your GOP-elitist snob liberal. FR is not a GOP website. It IS an evangelical, Pro-God website. That means what you’re doing is trolling. You ain’t a conservative.
I vote against the Party of Satan every chance I get. Of course, that takes discernment.
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Ummm..Satan doesn’t have a political party. And I won’t further Mormonism which is a demonic ‘church’.
I am a CHRISTIAN first, a CONSERVATIVE second, and a member of the Constitution party.
My faith is more important than politics. But thank you for proving CS Lewis’ insight correct.
check out #656, that idiot is blaming evangelicals too.
Standing your ground means you’re not advancing your agenda. Stand your ground long enough and you’re surrounded.
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Did early Christians cave? Did they say “oh we won’t stand for the truth, we will sacrifice to idols just to ‘get along’? NO. They died for their faith.
It is nonsense to say that because I won’t compromise I won’ further my agenda. People are won by debate and logic, if you compromise you let them win, because once you move from your principles and they see that, they will know you will KEEP Compromising. That is why the GOP has become so damn liberal that they nominated Liberal Romney.
Go ahead and compromise your values (if you have any), I will stand for truth.
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