Posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:54 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
Many of us could not imagine that Romney could lose this election, especially after four years of Obama’s radical Marxism and its social and fiscal consequences that America will NEVER recover from. All the hype and all the Romney rallies; it indeed looked like a sure victory for Romney except for one equation, the Evangelical vote. We here at the IFB have talked back and forth among ourselves since the RNC convention and with others also in the know; that if the Evangelical vote did not show up on Nov. 6th the jig would be up and Romney would lose big… and indeed he has.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way. The Evangelical vote consists of the TRUE social and moral conservatives of the party (i.e., the Right). Romney and the GOP also gave very little time to the Tea Party who is the heart of the grass root movement and the engine of the Party! The viewer ratings for the 2012 RNC convention were way down, some 40% and many of us- including myself - did not watch one lick of it. Why should we have? We knew what we were getting and many of us felt “diss’d” being left out as we were. That in its self should have set off warning bells to the RNC but in all honesty many of us who are Evangelicals were still going to vote for Romney holding our nose. It is our duty as Believers and an Americans to be salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and even though Romney was who he was; he was the better choice still and the lesser of the two evils for our nation. We were not going to trust in a Romney win but that a Romney win would slow down the final deterioration of our nation.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth and many have NOT forgotten it. Evangelicals felt betrayed and many did not vote for McCain in 2008 which gave Marxist Obama the victory. When you add the convention snub of Romney and the GOP that was the straw that broke the elephants back.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth.
Now we come to today, the day after the election and we once more again see that the Evangelical vote has stayed home; and in doing so have given Obama another four years to finish the job of transforming our nation and fundamentally changing our culture and way of life which includes the elimination of sound biblical Christianity. I know I am going to get a ton of hate mail for this statement, but SHAME ON YOU for sitting home and not choosing to be light and exercising your God given right to vote (Matt. 5:13-16)! I know all sides of this argument and there is still absolutely NO excuse (Matt. 5:13-16). Your self righteous pride, biblical ignorance and foolishness has open wide the door now for Christian persecution in our nation and the end of the freedoms we have for the furtherance of the Gospel. My friends, indeed the Day of the Lord is at hand, but WOE to any who seek to bring it about who call on the Name of Jesus Christ by being idol and slothful.This is NOT a sanctification matter and God will hold you accountable for hiding your light and voice.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us. I think of Samuel when all of Israel wanted a king and not the Lord (1 Sam. 8). It broke his heart and rightly so! He knew what was coming. Thus America in this election has said quite loudly that we DO NOT want the God given freedom to exercise what our Founding Fathers envisioned, which was based on the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God. In doing so we have REJECTED the Judeo/ Christian values and ideals which once made this country great. We have now as a nation fully taken on the mantle of Lawlessness and the spirit of Anti Christ as our nation’s ideology and culture.
Indeed, we as Evangelicals will now see what we must surely endure under lawless administration of Barack H. Obama and many Evangelicasl will be sifted and found wanting. That there... you can take to the bank!
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
Good catch on the date. Probably a TBL troll or retread rather than a DUmmie IMO.
We need to start a third party. We could call it Constitution Party. All evangelicals and fiscal conservatives belong to this party. The Republican Party will consist of republicans.
Thank you for being faithful to document what is often unknown or denied.
TBL still lives..now that is something to laugh about
Applause.
Fantastic FR political friends. Someday (not to soon) we need to meet at the pearly gates for a tea party.
“You really know nothing about mormonISM do you.”
Yeah...I was a Baptist living in Utah for 7 years and never learned ANYTHING about it! All those 3-4 hours discussions/debates and I didn’t learn a thing.
“Joseph Smith was clear obey or the sword.”
I had a number of Mormon friends who were told to stop being friends with me due to our conversations, but the LDS church never put out a contract on me.
You are a nutjob.
Thank you for speaking up, and from experience, although no doubt you’ll be castigated for it.
Yes it is. and I expect that Spammy et all are over there complaining about us.
Oh well, I don’t do this to be liked, I do this because the truth needs to be told.
Mormonism not anti-mormon bigotry is a distinction without a difference. I'd rather the Mormon over the Muslim Marxist any day.
> I can’t help but think that this is God’s judgment on us.<
Indeed, that is what I have said. Having to choose btwn a Mormon whose faith teaches men can become gods (as they say God progressed from being a man), and a man whose ideology makes the liberal elite as gods, is indeed a judgment.
As with Israel of old, blindness in part has happened to America.
“Israel hath cast off the thing that is good: the enemy shall pursue him. They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. “ (Hosea 8:3-4)
“I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing. “ (Hosea 8:12)
But God changeth not, and we are yet given grace to seek and to serve Him, and the focus must be on us being a “holy nation,” occupying till He comes. Mayberry is not coming back.
I do not disagree with voting for Romney, as you work with what you have, while also affirming those who would not vote for him out of conscience toward God.
But as for the other things, Rome herself considers Mormonism was outside the body of Christ, which she now (unlike the past) affirms includes baptized Scripture type Prots (Lumen Gentium), even though she excludes the strongest of them as being part of a church proper.
While as for you upholding freedom of religion, this was not true in the past under Rome, which even restricted free access to Scripture. (http://peacebyjesuscom.blogspot.com/2011/09/contradictions-in-roman-catholicism.html)
Live the Bible don’t hit people over the head with it is my motto.
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With 90% of unbelievers I agree with this statement wholeheartedly and that is the approach I take with them. My best friend grew up athiest and a few years ago had a radical born again conversion experience. That is the approach I took with her.
However, when you are dealing with pseudo-Christian cults (and their are specifics that classify them that way) like Mormons or JWs, you won’t get anywhere at all with the approach because they will just agree and say ‘oh we believe that too’ when in reality they may used Christian vocabulary but a different dictionary. They redefine basic terms like “God”, “Savior”, “Salvation”, “Atonement”, “Heaven”, “Grace”. If you don’t compare the Biblical gospel to Mormonsim (or JWs) then they are perfectly happy saying “we believe that too” (even if they don’t) and “see we are Christians too” even though they really do follow a different Christ. You have to point out to them the differences and that makes them angry. It doesn’t matter HOW you say something, the fact that you are not agreeing with their doctrine completely is ‘hate speech’. It is, at times, frustrating, but necessary to show them how their doctrines are NOT Biblical (and I can give you a list of really good sources that explain this in detail). You must first get a Mormon(or JW) to see that their group is not ‘the only true church on the face of the earth’ before you can begin to show them who Christ really was and what Grace really is.
I have pinged several other people who used to be Mormon and are now Christians who will tell you they came out the exact same way. A couple of others have been in ministry to the Mormons for several years and have experience exactly what I am saying. We are not hateful, but we are bold, because boldness in NECESSARY. We don’t hate Mormons, we love them enough to tell them the truth. Nothing breaks our heart more than when an LDS friend or family member dies, not knowing Christ. If we hated them, we would just leave them alone and not bother with being called names, being despised (as someone else on this thread said about me), the death threats from them, the frustration. To be honest, it would be a whole lot easier to just let them be and say we don’t care but we DO care, we care more than most because we put up with their abuse for the cause of Christ.
Check out a few episodes of “heart of the Matter” (HOTM.TV) and you will see what I am talking about.
I will check to see if I can find the clip you mentioned on exit polls.
Generally, Mormon or no, what would you think of your next-door neighbor if they announced to you...
(a) They facilitated a LOT of abortions, including paying for many of them in your neighborhood;
(b) They deemed themselves to be a "god in embryo" -- and told you frankly that one day some of the praise, worship, glory and even prayers directed to THE God would be "drained" a bit toward him;
(c) And he made $25,000 a year by being on the Board of Directors of a local theater that made most of their $ up front morally ... but conceded that part of that $25,000 came from the porn-show entrance in the back into one of their screening rooms?
Now, it's true (a), (b), and (c) might not apply to ALL Mormons [(b) for example, applies only to temple Lds]...
...but the "morals and integrity" that might be present in some Lds isn't reflective of the above, which has applied to Mitt Romney!
In fact, (b) shows a LOT of pride, arrogance, and hubris; (c) shows a lack of business integrity; and (a) depicts Romney as being hand-in-hand with the baby dismemberment industry...
Note: (C) references Romney's long-time board of directors position with Marriott Hotel & its XXX-rated in-room showings...Even the Mormon church-owned Deseret News newspaper critiqued Romney in July of '07 for his linkage to the porn industry.
Prior to 2008, I was a "broken glass republican", now I'm a broken glass voter.
I'd still crawl over broken glass to vote for a conservative but no political party owns my vote.
I didn't say Romney is perfect. But, given the choice between the only two candidates who had a chance to win, Romney and a socialist who was mentored by socialists/Marxists/communists and surrounds himself with socilaists/Marxists/communists, I chose Romney.
As good a depiction of Romney as any I've seen, keep up the good work.
Yeah, I'm back.
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