Lineup for gas on Route 130 in Hamilton (Matt White, Townsquare Media NJ)
Welcome Back Carter.
How’s that hope and change working out for you New Jersey....
Waiting in line for hours for something you can’t get.
These are the same people that want to call people living in the south stupid.
Gas lines over a mile long, with more than 150 cars, are now a common sight across the state. Waits are up to three hours.
Wow, they must drive some very big cars in New Jersey!
Each car is 35 feet long.
Berlin in April 1945.
Don't like to see that.
Word to the wise: preppping aint just for crazy people who see black helicopters. Several members of my family in the NY metro area are without power and will be so for another 4-7 days. They also have to wait hours in line for either gas or to buy food. Also, most places cannot process credit cards (no atms work either). So, cash is king. My dad and uncle have generators. They’re among the few in the area who still have power.
Because I spent it all on driving 50 miles to get 12 gallons of gas.
I wounder how fast it would take the U.S. to go tribal if all the Gasoline were to run out?
Why aren’t Sheppard Smith and Whoraldo out there screaming... “Oh, the humanity!”
There is no such thing as "gouging" - the price is what the market will bear.
Right now people may be paying $3.75 per gallon in cash, but they are also spending hours waiting in line and are really paying $30 or $40 per gallon in lost time at work or in babysitting.
Gasoline is a scarcer commodity in NJ right now than it is in TX, and therefore it should cost more.
If gas stations were allowed to charge the market rate - say $12 or $15 a gallon or what have you - then producers would be highl;y motivated to ship more gasoline to NJ and to bring generators to power now-dead pumps in order to be able to capitalize on the pent-up demand.
After a few days, supply would rebalance with demand and prices would go down.
But right now no one in his right mind would pay extra transport costs and spend money to reactivate dead pumps if all they were going to get was a measly $3.75 per gallon.
"Anti-gouging" creates worse shortages.
I'm glad I filled the tank in Massachusetts this morning. I should make it back but I'll be on fumes!
Yep...unfortunately, we are dealing with this madness as we speak...I am one of the lucky ones in that I have power, plenty of supplies and food (guess that AF Academy training was good for something)...and filled both cars on Sunday, so I am good for now...however this is getting ugly..the problem is not the fuel, it’s that stations have no power and can’t pump what they have...
If Bush was still around, the media would have cameras at every station with crying people saying that they couldn’t get their dying mother to the hospital and wondering why Bush wasn’t actually pumping the gas...I am no fan of relying on government to solve problems, but it would seem logical that if FEMA was going to do anything, they might send a few hundred generators to the state to run some of these stations...
If this doesn’t get fixed in a few days, there will be problems because people can’t get anywhere, and I don’t mean Gamestop, I mean doctors, nurses, emergency personnel, municipal services...it’s a little early to over worry, but the potential is there for some problems..Utilities are now in the Monday to Wednesday range of restoring everyone..Stay tuned...if the media actually did their job, this could be an emerging issue over the weekend and into Monday...
I was supposed to fly home on 9/11. I had to catch a van with some fellow employees. We stopped twice to fill up with no problems. I made it to the airport in my little city and got in my car to go home. Not enough fuel in the tank to make it to work the next day. I figured I’d fill up on the way home. Gasoline stations out of gas. I finally found one in the country with gas, but people were there filling up 55 gallon drums in the back of their pickups. I asked them what they were doing. “There might not be any gas tomorrow!” I asked them how many pipelines or fuel storage farms had been attacked. I told them it would take more than 30 days to affect things even if the Arabs stopped pumping oil that day....unless everyone panicked. They wouldn’t talk to me anymore. And this is in a part of the country that’s supposed to have rugged individualists.
You and your Prepper Ping List might be interested.
Its great to have a generator, but you need fuel for it to run. I’m in Texas, but I still have family in NJ. Mom went to stay with my brother, who has a generator at my suggestion (because he’s near the shore and needs a sump pump to work no matter what, or his basement floods when you get a lot of rain). When I asked, Mom told me that there was a 5-gallon container...and I told her that I hoped that the power company fixed things in a couple days, or they were going back to the 1850s. She said that my brother was going to get more gas...but by the looks of things, he’d have had to have been lucky to get any extra. Haven’t heard back yet.
All of this says that one must engage the wetware when prepping, or a significant portion of what you want to do will either be impossible or will only work for a while.
People also need to keep in mind that having a working generator in an urban or suburban setting more than a week after the power goes out without being restored. First, it’ll make noise (though there are ways to significantly reduce the range over which it can be heard); but, second, it is almost a sure thing that you’ll have one or two lights on at night - and people can see that from a long distance, especially if it is cloudy. In this particular situation, I don’t see that being much of a problem - running out of fuel is the bigger issue. Nonetheless, people with generators need to consider limiting light and noise (or eliminating it, despite the inconvenience) in order to not have to deal with those that’ll show up wanting some or all of what you have.
I hope the idiots on here who were irrationally poo pooing the storm are stuck in those lines.
“Sandy-starved New Yorkers Dumpster Dive”.