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New Jersey Gas Lines Stretch For Miles And Miles
Business Insider ^ | 11/01/2012 | Dina Spector and Rob Wile

Posted on 11/01/2012 9:47:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

More than 1,000 New Jersey gas stations are unable to sell fuel due to power outages and delivery problems, according to the head of one of the state's gas station associations.

Sal Risalvato, executive director of the New Jersey Gasoline-Convenience-Automotive Association, which represents 1,500 stations, told us by phone that 75 percent of his members have shut down fueling.

"There's difficulty getting supply from the pipeline, to distribution centers, to the trucks, to the gas stations, and then the final hurdle, getting it into car. So there [are] difficulties along every point."

Many stations don't have power to pump gas. Those with power are pumping fuel until they run out. Although some refineries remain shut down, they still have fuel in storage. But trucks are having trouble making it to the stations because roads remain blocked by trees and flooding.

Additionally, there are more cars on the road since many bus and train lines remain suspended.

Risalvato said none of his clients are gouging.

"There's nobody rationing, when a retailer has gas, pumping until has no more."

Two separate people we talked to today, who otherwise have power, said that gasoline was their main concern, in part because it's fueling generators.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: 2012; gaslines; newjersey; nj; obama; salrisalvato; sandy
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To: Obadiah

The manufacturer of anything will always tell you that if they don’t supply (and profit from) the kits.

The conversions actually have a great record. Correct jetting is required and supplied.

http://propanecarbs.com/

and others.


81 posted on 11/01/2012 12:48:12 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture tm)
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To: Rockhound

If you are really desperate, an icepick to the bottom of the tank works as well. Keep a supply of sheet metal screws with neoprene washers for use as shut off valves...


82 posted on 11/01/2012 12:48:24 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1381 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: libstripper

The Marines used to hook a hose to the exhaust and bury the end under gravel. With not all that much gravel or dirt it’d be pretty quiet.

Thanks, Dad. See, I really was listening...


83 posted on 11/01/2012 12:51:56 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1381 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: metmom; Rockhound; libstripper; Kartographer

Of course an alternative is to use a power inverter hooked up to your car. Not as fuel efficient of course, but it works as a short-term power need. It’s also a lot less noisy than most stand alone generators and attracts less attention.

Also, if you’re going to run any sensitive electronics or medical equipment from your inverter or stand-alone generator you should seriously consider a pure sine wave model.


84 posted on 11/01/2012 12:52:16 PM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: null and void

Great tip. Thanks.


85 posted on 11/01/2012 12:53:07 PM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: StAnDeliver
Sorry, that's panic buying.

No, it isn't. These people are running generators off gasoline.

86 posted on 11/01/2012 12:53:59 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: Rockhound

Do you have natural gas service? Space for a large propane tank?

Get a conversion kit for the genset.


87 posted on 11/01/2012 12:54:18 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: steve86

Good to know. Thanks for the link.


88 posted on 11/01/2012 12:55:35 PM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Or he could say: If anyone is jailed or fined for violating this illogical statute, rest assured that I intend to suspend any fine and pardon any sentence associated with that violation.


89 posted on 11/01/2012 12:56:24 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: SeekAndFind
That makes no sense. All those people can't possibly be sitting on empty. Were those people clueless about a major storm coming that would cause flooding and power outages? Were they so clueless they didn't bother at least topping off their tanks? No way would I be gassing up two days after a flood as water probably seeped into the underground gas storage tanks. Same as no way should they be gassing up immediately after gas is delivered because the gunk in the bottom of the tanks will be stirred up.
90 posted on 11/01/2012 1:06:09 PM PDT by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the point of no return?)
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To: relictele

-—— They bring joy to so many Southern locales every time they depart to return home. -——

I visited a construction camp up north of Fairbanks Alaska and they had bumper stickers......

Happiness is seeing a Texan headed south (with an Okie under each arm)


91 posted on 11/01/2012 1:06:47 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: wideawake

“”Anti-gouging” creates worse shortages.”

Or; markets work.


92 posted on 11/01/2012 1:07:42 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Alberta's Child

If it were me I’d sell the gas gennie asap when you get power back. invest in a diesel powered one or a multifuel one and store as much diesel in a tank as my township would bear and/or I could hide in a shed in the back yard. Diesel stores MUCH better than gas...


93 posted on 11/01/2012 1:08:25 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Alberta's Child

Why are Yankees so unable to cope?

This happens every year, year in and year out, down south and folks manage to get gas, get stuff and get on with it.


94 posted on 11/01/2012 1:14:05 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: null and void
Disconnect the fuel line at the engine, use the car’s electric fuel pump to fill jerrycans.

Just remember that in New Jersey state OSHA requires that you place a "No Open Flames" sign (6" X 12" minimum) in front of your work area and with approved hazard colors. /sarc

95 posted on 11/01/2012 1:18:02 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture tm)
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To: woodbutcher1963
I am on a well. No electricty = no water.

You need a backup hand pump:

http://www.survivalunlimited.com/handwaterpumpdeep.htm

96 posted on 11/01/2012 1:19:00 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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I have a 7000 watt unit that powers up the whole house. But it’s beyond noisy.

After much research, I’m getting a “deck” storage box from HD. Cover the inside walls with insulation and make a hole for the exhaust. I also want to put a small car muffler on it. I’ve seen the before and after and I’m impressed with the noise difference.

Also, if there’s anyone that’s want’s to sell gas in NJ then I’m a buyer. I run a business in Newark that I need to check up on every day even with no power (It’s located near the projects). I live in Rahway. It’s getting hard out here.

Any help would be great.


97 posted on 11/01/2012 1:19:34 PM PDT by Cozz
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To: 3Fingas
Several members of my family in the NY metro area are without power and will be so for another 4-7 days. They also have to wait hours in line for either gas or to buy food

A couple days out and they're out of food. Such things boogles the mind. I read about one guy hollering at FEMA or whatever agency on day two (TWO!!!) about getting food to the starving hoards. Do people not have a can of soup in the cabinet? No Ramen noodles and a lit scented candle? Not even a box of crackers? Did they not expect trick or treaters so they don't even have a few bags of Halloween candy? They obviously don't live entirely off fast food or there wouldn't be groceries. So, what the heck do they buy at the grocery stores if they have zero food in their homes? Rover and Kitty must be getting nervous around the Donners.

98 posted on 11/01/2012 1:19:42 PM PDT by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the point of no return?)
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To: SVTCobra03

My well is 220’ deep. The water is down 200’. I do not think a hand pump would work. That is why I have a Honda gasoline backup generator.


99 posted on 11/01/2012 1:22:12 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Ancesthntr

Having a generator and just one or two 5-gallon containers is like having an AR15 and 10 rounds of ammo. You need 15
5-gallon containers and you need to fill them well before the weather event arrives.


100 posted on 11/01/2012 1:23:26 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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